Posted: 1/9/2009 6:11:18 AM EDT
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Sorry if this is a dupe.
Anyone familiar with this? Is this really happening? 
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I hate to be a dick, but this was brought up 4 days ago http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=15&t=339628 And has been almost monthly for the last year and a half. EDIT: Using the search function, I simply searched for the word "Ammo" in the subject, got 3 results. EDIT AGAIN: To clarify I limited my search to the Washington Forum over the last 7 days. |
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I hate to be a dick, but this was brought up 4 days ago http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=15&t=339628 And has been almost monthly for the last year and a half. EDIT: Using the search function, I simply searched for the word "Ammo" in the subject, got 3 results. EDIT AGAIN: To clarify I limited my search to the Washington Forum over the last 7 days. 
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I hate to be a dick, but this was brought up 4 days ago http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=15&t=339628 And has been almost monthly for the last year and a half. EDIT: Using the search function, I simply searched for the word "Ammo" in the subject, got 3 results. EDIT AGAIN: To clarify I limited my search to the Washington Forum over the last 7 days. so who's next to bring it up in 4 days 
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I hate to be a dick, but this was brought up 4 days ago http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=15&t=339628 And has been almost monthly for the last year and a half. EDIT: Using the search function, I simply searched for the word "Ammo" in the subject, got 3 results. EDIT AGAIN: To clarify I limited my search to the Washington Forum over the last 7 days. so who's next to bring it up in 4 days
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I've said this before but since we are here again, From a criminals perspective, it's worthless. 1) Remove bullet from case. 2) Destroy coding on bullet base. 3) Reassemble. Buy killing ammo now. Use your "encoded" ammo to go to the range, pull out your Pre-ban Ammo, if you decided someone needs to be removed from the genepool! |
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And, not to be a dick, but does ammo coding *really* matter? It might add $.50/box, but it's not like the JBT will pound down your door because of some powder residue. Can you tell the class why this should not matter? if you are not guilty you should have nothing to hide |
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And, not to be a dick, but does ammo coding *really* matter? It might add $.50/box, but it's not like the JBT will pound down your door because of some powder residue. In fact they will pound down your door when they find your bullet that has been used to kill someone. You would need to keep the ammo in a safe so the bad guy's dont steal it and frame you. |
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FURTHERMORE... THERE IS NO SUCH TECHNOLOGY. As someone stated, it has been done, and it would be very expensive for us. The owners of the following website are the main backers for doing it. If you dig further into it, I believe they are also the holders of the patent and ability to do it. Hence they would make millions of $$$$$. http://ammunitionaccountability.org/ BTW the website owners are based in the greater Seattle area. As far as I know this has yet to pass in any state, it tends to be read/introduced then sent to a committe and then goes no where, except in California where they actually had the bills ready to vote. |
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FORENSIC IMPLICATIONS
While the Bubba Bullet holds almost endless possibilities, concerns have been raised as to what could happen if it were to be used for criminal purposes. According to Mandrell, no one can predict how or why criminals would use a Bubba Bullet. "Anyone could use a Bubba Bullet to commit a crime," she said. "But then again anyone could walk into a city with a nuclear weapon so I don't think one bullet will make that much of a difference." Dynamic Research Technologies has developed a way to allow forensic investigators to trace the bullet if it were used in an assault or murder. In bullets available for public use, a small lead wafer will be implanted in each core that can be easily traced back to the gun or person who purchased the round. A digital chip was originally hypothesized, but none have yet been developed that can handle the bullet's impact. Taken from: Link |
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FURTHERMORE... THERE IS NO SUCH TECHNOLOGY. As someone stated, it has been done, and it would be very expensive for us. The owners of the following website are the main backers for doing it. If you dig further into it, I believe they are also the holders of the patent and ability to do it. Hence they would make millions of $$$$$. http://ammunitionaccountability.org/ BTW the website owners are based in the greater Seattle area. As far as I know this has yet to pass in any state, it tends to be read/introduced then sent to a committe and then goes no where, except in California where they actually had the bills ready to vote. Ok, the've now done a handful for show.. The first 50 times this issues came up here and when they were attempting to pitch it to the state, they did not have said technology. I still doubt their ability to do it on a mass scale. I'm sure the state would LOVE to have thousands of pissed off hunters rifles in hand when deer or elk season is screwed because they can't get ammo to use. Furthermore, Have they figured out how to track it? From what I know there are serious flaws in their idea and they are still pitching a useless idea that has nothing to support it. |
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I hate to be a dick, but this was brought up 4 days ago http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=15&t=339628 You're a dick because you can't fucking link to the correct forum. |
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And, not to be a dick, but does ammo coding *really* matter? It might add $.50/box, but it's not like the JBT will pound down your door because of some powder residue. Can you tell the class why this should not matter? if you are not guilty you should have nothing to hide Is my meter broken?
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And, not to be a dick, but does ammo coding *really* matter? It might add $.50/box, but it's not like the JBT will pound down your door because of some powder residue. Can you tell the class why this should not matter? "if you are not guilty you should have nothing to hide", said Mr Adolf Hitler fixed yer quote for ya |
3359 requires the bullet, case, and it's container be encoded with the same unique alphanumeric identifier There are a ton of technological, system, and process changes that would have to be made in order to be able to track a numbered bullet and its matching numbered case and it's container within the manufacturing process and that's before setting up the registration system that's required after it leaves the factory. For actually making a system to do all of this the patent they have is bunk. In summary it says, put an identifying mark on a bullet and case (method unspecified) and track that identifying mark(method unspecified) by making a record of everyone who possesses it (custodians). In 2008 it was a non starter. In 2009 it hasn't a chance. Beginning January 1, 2010, all combustion engine using vehicles manufactured in the state, imported into the state, or kept or offered for sale, sold, or transferred in the state, must have an EPA rating of 1000 MPG.
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And, not to be a dick, but does ammo coding *really* matter? It might add $.50/box, but it's not like the JBT will pound down your door because of some powder residue. My guess......this guy doesn't re-load. And, probably doesn't have a stash. Aloha, Mark |
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BTW......IF you can't get it on a state by state basis........try a FEDERAL LAW.
STRENGTHEN TRACING OF CRIME GUNS
TO HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT SOLVE CRIMES • Require All New Guns to Have Microstamping Capability By a Date Certain We agree with President-elect Obama that a law requiring guns to have microstamping capability to assist law enforcement is “the kind of common sense gun law that gun owners as well as victims of gun violence can get behind.”68 Federal legislation should be passed, similar to the statute recently enacted in California, to require all new semiautomatic handguns to be equipped with technology that transfers unique identifying information from guns to discharged cartridges. The California law received the support of 65 police chiefs and sheriffs throughout the state, as well as the California Police Chiefs Association, the Orange County Chiefs' and Sheriff's Association, the Peace Officers Research Association of California (PORAC), and the Los Angeles Police Protective League. A federal microstamping requirement would allow pistols used in crime around the country to be traced by police from the cartridges left behind at crime scenes.69 Federal legislation will help law enforcement track down armed criminals and solve gun crimes by giving police more precise investigative leads to pursue suspects. Federal law should require that all new handguns have microstamping. This was taken from the Brady Bunch............."GUN VIOLENCE IN AMERICA PROPOSALS FOR THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION" Never rest.........they don't. HTH. Aloha, Mark |
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And, not to be a dick, but does ammo coding *really* matter? It might add $.50/box, but it's not like the JBT will pound down your door because of some powder residue. Um, me thinks you got the decimal place wrong. it's more like up to $5 a box. Just imagine what that would do to the .22 lr market. Doubling or tripling the cost of ammo. If a 50 round box of .22 went up $5, then a 500 round box would go up $50. This would virtually kill the .22 lr market, which happens to be the caliber most commonly used to get people into the sport/hobby/pastime of shooting. Even if it was only $1 or $2 per box, it would still have a HUGE impact on the industry. Besides, ammo coding, whether microstamp or taggant, has been been proven to be unreliable at best. Simply a waste of money. ETA: And you can kiss goodbye to handloading and all mil-surplus ammo (the worlds military forces are not dumb enough to fall for this ass-hattery) also. Most of the bills require that any un-coded ammo be disposed of by a certain date, with a possesion ban thereafter. |