Posted: 8/10/2008 4:38:34 PM EDT
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Im transfering over to WSU here next week and im living in a WSU owned townhouse but off campus.. The problem is firearms "arent" allowed. But "small" quanities of ammo are.. I guess that depends on my definition of small.. Anyway i have heard from many sources that you can keep your guns at the campus police sation.. access 24/7, under lock and key.. all you have to do is bring lockable case to the window put it in and then immediatley leave campus.. Do i trust the Campus Police to keep my $2000 worth of a few guns.. or are they gunna flip when i try and check in 2 tactical Ar-15s and a shotgun... Or do i only take one and break it apart and leave it in a guitar case in the closet and tell NO ONE.. cuz its not going to be patrolled or no RA's could come walking in.. The only other person that i would not invite in would be repair people but i would know in advance.. I trust my roommate.. he would be bringing a shotgun along.. What should i do guys.. 1) leave all my guns at home.. 2) check them at the campus police station 3) Keep them hidden in the townhouse |
I'm gonna go with hidden inside a lockable container that doesnt scream "firearm", i.e. tool storage/paint locker or something along those lines. "This is where I keep my food/liquor to keep my roommate from stealing it and no I wont show you the inside." But that's just me. 
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My experience is from the 1990's, but I've heard it confirmed by more than a few. (I used to work on the inside for a few years). You can keep you stuff at the PD, even if you live off of campus, for safe keeping. Smart thing to do when you're going on vacation. They are not beholden to provide you 24/7 access unless they have the manpower to do so. The "arms room" is a joke. It's a room with some stuffed cabinetry chocked fulla random people's guns and ammo. These guns and ammo are routinely played with by the people with access to the room which often included anyone on duty at the time, security, student-patrols, staff, interns or whoever was wandering by when the room was open. So if you like your stuff dry-fired, racked, and pointed about, then this is the place for you. Otherwise, just lock it in your room and don't give anyone a reason to search your premises (which would require quite a crime) and you'll be just fine... And keep it a secret... Remember three can keep a secret if two of them are dead... |
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I never went to WSU, but I did go to a private university and we had break ins every now and than... many times instruments, especially guitars and electronics were stolen. You wouldn’t want any of them to get stolen and half to explain to campus police what was stolen. Something else to keep in mind is curious roommates who live down the hall. One thing I learned in college life was that people assumed because I lived with them, they could use my stuff. What is the probability of someone snooping around and innocently going to “barrow” your guitar. ETA... What about a vehicle? Is there a way to keep something locked in your trunk? My advice is follow the rules in order to cover your ass. Trust me, it is no fun explaining to campus police and school administrators why you have banned items in your room. |
The last thing you want to do in the middle of an active shooter incident on a collage campus is grab your gun and head into the fight. It may seem like a great idea here on the internet but in reality it would be a disaster. If you can run to the PD, get your gun and make it back chances are either the situation is over or law enforcement on the scene will view you as a threat. Now if you were concealed carrying in the place where a shooting occurred, by all means open fire on the offending asshole. |
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Well there would be a better chance of someone like 2whiskeyP being elected president then for the campus security handing out everyones firearms if a crisis happened.. Im living in a townhouse so there prolly will be alot less people walking in then in the dorms.. ya good point about a friend picking up the guitar case to play the guitar.. We have a storage room we would prolly keep it in.. or a closet.. Im not takin my car but my roommate is taking his mustang so not much room in the trunk.. Hmm i dont like the idea of random people fingering my guns.. I wonder if leagally i could just give them the lowers.. prolly not tho.. even tho the upper is not a usable firearm.. I was thinking after i turn 21 around x-mas of bringing my handguns over.. i thought i could always cut a hole in the closet floor in the upstairs and stash it in the floorboards.. Hmm well i have a week to decide. any more ideas or thoughts? |
Only if i could conceal carry on campus... Prolly would get way more busted for that when i get my CCW then just keeping firearms in the house. Only in Utah If i was packing tho.. hell ya id be opening up at a oppurtune moment |
is this a public/shared storage room? Where I stayed we had shared community storage rooms... make sure you know what kind of storage room it is. |
| 1. Carry concealed everywhere, always. 2. Unless you and your Trust-him-with-your-naked-sister buddy have a 100% secure room, don't leave anything in it you wouldn't wanna see on page 1 of the campus rag. 3. The PD storage idea not only sucks, it swallows. 4. It's spelled d-i-l-e-m-m-a. |
Find a different place to live. Get/bring a safe.
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It is still your choice whether or not to live there. They set the conditions and either you accept and move in or decline and move on. They are not withholding a right, they are encouraging you to opt out of a right. But in the end it is a choice. |
Rights can not be opted out of. You can choose not to exercise it, but you cannot 'give it up' as some would have us believe. |
| While you are choosing to live there you are choosing to not exercise that right. Opting out is not permanent, only as long as you choose to live there. Not allowing guns in the campus owned housing is legal. If you choose to live in that kind of housing you are not going to be able to exercise your 1st or 3rd amendment rights the way you would be able to in a private residence. I am sure the college can inspect the unit with or without your permission while you are living there, third amendment. Try hanging a dead rooster (voodoo) from the front door or a Nazi flag from the balcony and I am fairly certain your first amendment rights may take a back seat to the wishes of the property owner. If you are going to live under someone else's roof you live under their rules (or lease agreement). Like it or not it is the law. |
Floorboards are very tricky to make invisible....too creaky, floor flexes as people walk over them, etc. No one will notice an end of a hallway being 6" shorter.....or a tucked-away endwall of a closet. Of course, jackbooted thugs will find it regardless, but we're not talking about them. Yet. 
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