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Site News Could You Have Stopped This? Vegas Shooting Analysis with Attorneys on Retainer
2/13/2008 11:45:51 AM EDT
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more
2/13/2008 11:47:49 AM EDT
[#1]


Detectives retrieved 40 large combat knives, four bullet-resistant vests, a loaded AR-15 assault rifle with a scope and 18 extra loaded magazines, a Fabrique Nationale PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun, a 12-gauge shotgun, a 9-mm Glock pistol, a .50-caliber rifle, a .22-caliber rifle, four air rifles, six Motorola police-style radios, and the 20,000 bullets.
2/13/2008 11:49:54 AM EDT
[#2]
At least they said Magazines and not CLIPS!  



FYI, old news, happened early January!
2/13/2008 11:50:28 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
At least they said Magazines and not CLIPS!  



FYI, old news, happened early January!


I see plenty of CLIPS!



eta: That's a lot of clips, I wish I had that many clips
2/13/2008 11:52:41 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm having a hard time believing that PS-90 is full auto.  Another liberal media blunder?  
2/13/2008 11:55:17 AM EDT
[#5]
Is the guy from Washington State or something?...



Anyway, I know it is NY City, and almost all of that stuff is a No-No there, but when are NVG's, and 2-way radios illegal?
2/13/2008 11:56:34 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more


Except we aren't in NYC.
2/13/2008 12:00:38 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Is the guy from Washington State or something?...



Anyway, I know it is NY City, and almost all of that stuff is a No-No there, but when are NVG's, and 2-way radios illegal?




When they are found with big bad GUNS!
2/13/2008 12:03:20 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Is the guy from Washington State or something?...



Anyway, I know it is NY City, and almost all of that stuff is a No-No there, but when are NVG's, and 2-way radios illegal?




When they are found with big bad GUNS!


Good point...

I hope he gets the chair.
2/13/2008 12:09:48 PM EDT
[#9]
I think half the rounds are .22lr.  Looks kind of like my ammo closet.
2/13/2008 12:15:40 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more


Except we aren't in NYC.


So a PS-90 is a machine gun in NYC?
2/13/2008 12:17:57 PM EDT
[#11]
That just shows how fucked up the laws are in some states. Even here in Gargoyle land that still wouldn't be a crime.
2/13/2008 12:22:39 PM EDT
[#12]
Not a WA problem.  Half of our WAHTF folks have that much stuff in just one bug out box.
2/13/2008 12:22:58 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more


Except we aren't in NYC.


So a PS-90 is a machine gun in NYC?


As far as I know, the CITY has it's own gun laws seperate of the state!

I don't know how current or accurate this is:


For City of New York: Title 38 of the Rules of the City of New York, § 17-01. Assault Weapons Designated. (a) Pursuant to Subparagraph 7 of Paragraph a of Subdivision 16 of § 10-301 of the New York City Administrative Code, the following makes and models of weapons are determined to be particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes and are determined to be within the statutory definition of assault weapon as set forth in § 10‑301(16) of the New York City Administrative Code: (1) Models Calico M-900 carbine, Calico M-100 carbine manufactured by American Industries, (2) Models Lightning 25-22, AP-74 manufactured by AMT, (3) Model AR-180 manufactured by Armalite, (4) Model .223 SAC manufactured by Austrian Automatic Arms, (5) Models M-1-SA, 1927-A1-SA manufactured by Auto Ordinance, (6) Model Light 50 82-AL manufactured by Barrett Firearms, (7) Models AR70, BM 59 manufactured by Beretta, (8) Model Assault Rifle manufactured by Bushmaster Firearms, (9) Model SR-88 manufactured by Charter Firearms Industries, (10) Models AR-15 manufactured by Colt, (11) Models MAX-1, MAX-2, K1A1, K2, USAS-12 shotgun manufactured by Daewoo Industries, (12) Models C90, C100, C450 manufactured by DMAX Industries, (13) Model MK-IV carbine manufactured by ENCOM, (14) Models FN-FAL, FN-LAR, FN-FNC manufactured by Fabrique Nationale, (15) Model MAS 223 manufactured by FAMAS, (16) Models AT-9 carbine, AT-22 carbine manufactured by Feather Industries, (17) Models XC-450 AUTO OCARBINE, XC-220, XC-900 manufactured by Federal Engineering Corporation, (18) Models SPAS-12, LAW-12 pump auto shotguns manufactured by Franchi, (19) Model GC HIGH TECH carbine manufactured by Goncz Company, (20) Models HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, PSG-1, G3-SA manufactured by Heckler & Koch, (21) Models UZI-carbine, MINI-UZI carbine, GALIL-ARM, GALIL-AR, GALIL-SAR, GALIL-SNIPER manufactured by Israeli Military Industries, (22) Model PM-30 PARATROOPER manufactured by Iver Johnson, (23) Models AP-74, AP-84, AP-80, AP-85, SPECTRE AUTO carbine manufactured by Mitchell Arms, (24) Models of the Kalashnikov-type semiautomatic, including those manufactured by Norinco (China) and Hungarian Arms, (25) Models NDM-86 SNIPER RIFLE manufactured by Norinco, (26) Model M-14S manufactured by Polytech Industries, (27) Model MINI-14/5F manufactured by Ruger, (28) Models 57-AMT, PE-57, SG550SP, SG551SP manufactured by SIGArms, (29) Model L1A1A manufactured by Small Arms Factory, Australia, (30) Models BM-59, SAR-48, SAR-58, SAR-3, M-1A manufactured by Springfield Armory, (31) Model MK-6 manufactured by Sterling, (32) Model AUG-SA manufactured by Steyer Daimler-Pusch, (33) Models M-76-SA, M-78-SA manufactured by Valmet Corporation, and (34) Model NIGHTHAWK manufactured by Weaver Arms Corporation.  Please look in the file library for more information on NYC gun laws
2/13/2008 12:23:57 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more


Except we aren't in NYC.


So a PS-90 is a machine gun in NYC?




I bet some here may have a tad more




This is the WAHTF that is a several week old article from NYC.


Stuff we have is legal here, much of that is not legal in NYC.  

That guy is screwed.
Where are the three FS2000s that they have the boxes for?

I couldn't care less that [email protected] doesn't know proper firearms nomenclature, that would be the norm in NYC.

The last I knew NYC was trying to increase the civil penalty for violating their AWB from $10,000 to $25,000 per, and that's on top of criminal penalties so it may as well be an MG.
2/13/2008 12:32:40 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more


Except we aren't in NYC.


So a PS-90 is a machine gun in NYC?




I bet some here may have a tad more




This is the WAHTF that is a several week old article from NYC.


Stuff we have is legal here, much of that is not legal in NYC.  

That guy is screwed.
Where are the three FS2000s that they have the boxes for?

I couldn't care less that [email protected] doesn't know proper firearms nomenclature, that would be the norm in NYC.
The last I knew NYC was trying to increase the civil penalty for violating their AWB from $10,000 to $25,000 per, and that's on top of criminal penalties so it may as well be an MG.



The problem with him not knowing, is that he (and his editor) allows serious mis-information to be put out as "factual." Most adults get their info from the media, so the media have a RESPONSIBILITY and a DUTY to get it right.

Info from media (media = newspapers, TV, movies etc)  translates to voting power.

It is super-crucial to understand this.
2/13/2008 12:34:06 PM EDT
[#16]
I found an arsenal in New Jersey before. . . Picatinny Arsenal.
2/13/2008 12:40:01 PM EDT
[#17]
I do believe that if the police here were to go to someones house and find that amount of ammo and guns it would be the same headlines.

Guns and ammo are like a Harley, if you have to explain they just won't get it.
2/13/2008 12:45:48 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more


Except we aren't in NYC.


So a PS-90 is a machine gun in NYC?




I bet some here may have a tad more




This is the WAHTF that is a several week old article from NYC.


Stuff we have is legal here, much of that is not legal in NYC.  

That guy is screwed.
Where are the three FS2000s that they have the boxes for?

I couldn't care less that [email protected] doesn't know proper firearms nomenclature, that would be the norm in NYC.
The last I knew NYC was trying to increase the civil penalty for violating their AWB from $10,000 to $25,000 per, and that's on top of criminal penalties so it may as well be an MG.



The problem with him not knowing, is that he (and his editor) allows serious mis-information to be put out as "factual." Most adults get their info from the media, so the media have a RESPONSIBILITY and a DUTY to get it right.

Info from media (media = newspapers, TV, movies etc)  translates to voting power.

It is super-crucial to understand this.


Sorry, I'm not going to bother tilting at a tiny insignificant windmill in NYC.  I spend more than enough time dealing with media both local and national when they screw up to worry about what [email protected] a sub-regional paper, that gets caught faking their circulation numbers, on the far side of the country said in a throw away article.

24 hours in a day, resources are finite.

His email address was attached to the article, feel free to have at it.

Plus it may damn well be an MG
2/13/2008 12:46:52 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
PS-90 5.7-caliber automatic machine gun RIGHT... Machine Gun....

ARSENAL PPPFFTTTTTT! I bet some here may have a tad more


Except we aren't in NYC.


So a PS-90 is a machine gun in NYC?





I bet some here may have a tad more




This is the WAHTF that is a several week old article from NYC.


Stuff we have is legal here, much of that is not legal in NYC.  

That guy is screwed.
Where are the three FS2000s that they have the boxes for?

I couldn't care less that [email protected] doesn't know proper firearms nomenclature, that would be the norm in NYC.

The last I knew NYC was trying to increase the civil penalty for violating their AWB from $10,000 to $25,000 per, and that's on top of criminal penalties so it may as well be an MG.




I feel for that guy but I was joking about the arnsenal (to say)
2/13/2008 12:55:44 PM EDT
[#20]



I hope they credit the poor SOB for all the ammo the PD will walk away with....
2/13/2008 1:01:40 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:So a PS-90 is a machine gun in NYC?


in NYC, the air rifles are machine guns.
2/13/2008 2:38:08 PM EDT
[#22]
What I thought was funny was the fact that they listed the PS-90, but if you look closely at the bottom of one of the pics you'll notice three FS2000 boxes, MMMMM wonder whats in those. from that list I only count 6 real guns and 20k of ammo. I think they forgot about a few, I also see a bolt action rifle on the table. And since when does a black powder rifle (Hawkin I think) count as part of the aresnal?
2/13/2008 3:18:09 PM EDT
[#23]
So that's why there is an ammo shortage!!
2/13/2008 4:27:23 PM EDT
[#24]
looks like at least 10k of .22lr alone.[://  I hate when the media makes a big deal out of a couple of boxes of .22's
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