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9/26/2007 3:21:16 PM EDT
Olympic Arms!

Took my CAR-15 in to have the front sight adjusted and walked out with a nice scope for my Ultra Match.

Millett Tactical Rifle Scope, 4-16 x 50, side focus, illuminated (green) mil-dot reticle.

Can't wait to try it out!







Nice people at Olyarms, too.
9/26/2007 5:08:43 PM EDT
[#1]
+1

I always get more than I went in for at Oly Arms!!!
9/26/2007 6:05:22 PM EDT
[#2]
been eyeballing the Millets for a while.  Look forward to the range report.
9/26/2007 6:59:01 PM EDT
[#3]

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been eyeballing a Mullet for a while.
9/26/2007 7:34:35 PM EDT
[#4]


Wow, I've got an Ultra Match also....I hope you will provide a range report soon.  

9/26/2007 7:46:18 PM EDT
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Wow, I've got an Ultra Match also....I hope you will provide a range report soon.  



How about you provide one also and then us arm chair comandos can do a comparison.
9/27/2007 5:02:49 PM EDT
[#6]

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Quoted:
been eyeballing a Mullet for a while.




I'm gonna try and get out to the range this weekend.  Report to follow.
9/29/2007 7:00:37 PM EDT
[#7]
No range report today.  Bastards at Cascade had the rifle range tied up for "hunter sight-in."

I'll try again tomorrow, but I think the rain is going to keep me at home.  We'll see.
9/29/2007 7:16:20 PM EDT
[#8]

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No range report today.  Bastards at Cascade had the rifle range tied up for "hunter sight-in."

I'll try again tomorrow, but I think the rain is going to keep me at home.  We'll see.


SVRC is doing the same thing, kinda pissed I can't use the range I belong to.
9/30/2007 1:55:06 AM EDT
[#9]
I have that scope on my 20" OLY, it works great. I was impressed witht he NV setting on the reticle illumination through my night vision.
9/30/2007 6:09:39 AM EDT
[#10]

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I have that scope on my 20" OLY, it works great. I was impressed witht he NV setting on the reticle illumination through my night vision.


Cool  I don't have any NV gear... yet

Do you notice any difference between the NV setting and the #1 setting?  They look about the same to my unaided eye (it's gotta be fairly dark for me to see either of them).
9/30/2007 1:42:59 PM EDT
[#11]
I was able to send a few magazines worth of ammo downrange today and so far I like the scope, but there may be a problem with it.  Not sure.

I started out shooting at 50 yards after boresighting the rifle (this is all with Guatamala B ammo, btw).  After getting the groups to hit where I was aiming I moved the target back to 100 yards.  Actually had to come DOWN on the elevation at that range

Once I got it shooting at 100 yards I put up a new target, swapped ammo for what I thought would be more accurate stuff (I was wrong.  Ultramax SUCKS in this gun!), and then "shot the box."  After switching back to the Guat. ammo and changing targets again, I tried again.

3 shots
One full rotation up elev.
3 shots
One full rotation right wind.
3 shots
One full rotation down, 3 shots, left...

The groups were consistant in their movement.  They went down the same amount that they went up and the same for left and right.

However, and this is where I think there might be a problem, the groups only moved about 6-1/2 to 7 inches in each direction.  One full rotation of either turret is supposed to move the point-of-impact NINE inches.

I hope that I don't have to return the scope, because I really do like it.  But I'm wondering about the discrepancy in the amount of movement.

Here's the last target of the day:


Yeah, I know... better ammo and tightening the nut behind the stock would yield better groups.
9/30/2007 2:00:32 PM EDT
[#12]
If I had a gun called an "Ultra Match" and it shot groups like that, I would be furious.
9/30/2007 2:46:15 PM EDT
[#13]

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However, and this is where I think there might be a problem, the groups only moved about 6-1/2 to 7 inches in each direction.  One full rotation of either turret is supposed to move the point-of-impact NINE inches.

I hope that I don't have to return the scope, because I really do like it.  But I'm wondering about the discrepancy in the amount of movement.


Double check the distance from scope to target. Either you were way off or the scope really isn't 1/8 moa per click. Perhaps it's a chinese conversion error
9/30/2007 3:58:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Very nice looking setup.
9/30/2007 6:17:18 PM EDT
[#15]
Put some iron sights on it and sight it in.
9/30/2007 6:22:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Sighting in
Sighting in your rifle is critical to assure that point-of-aim and impact yards are the
same at a known range. The method we recommend is to start shooting at 25 yards or
50 yards with a target large enough to allow some room for error. The goal of properly
sighting in the scope is to eliminate human error, so use a solid rest to support the rifle.

It’s best if at the time you sight in, the wind is calm.

Fire 3 shots, carefully holding the crosshairs at the same point on the target for each
shot. Measure the distance from the point you were aiming at and center of the 3 shot
group. This is how much you will need to move your scope to align the crosshairs. Let’s
say the group was 4 inches to the right and 5 inches high.

Since the adjustments on the TRS scopes are 1/8” or 3mm at 100, and 1/16” at 50  yards,
you will need to move the scope adjustments 64 clicks to the left and 80 down.
One full turn of the turret is 72 clicks or 9 inches at 100 yards.

Note: The arrows on the turrets of the scope are for direction of movement of the bullet.
Move the target to 100m or yards and repeat the sighting in procedure to adjust the
turrets until the scope is aligned to the rifle. Fire a group after adjustment to assure the
proper sight-in.

It is best to fire the rifle at the ranges that the sight will be using to assure your zero
and drop for various ranges. Many shooters set the sights a number of inches high
at 100 yards so they have a longer point-blank range. Example, a 308 sighted 2 i
nches high at 100 will be dead on at 200 yards, extending the point blank range to over 300 yards.

Once the scope is sighted in, you can zero the windage and elevation turrets by
loosening the 3 small set screws in the top of the caps and turning the cap until the
zero ( 0 ) lines up with the dot on the body of the scope and then retighten the screws.

Now it’s easy to count the clicks for elevation and windage.
9/30/2007 7:07:31 PM EDT
[#17]

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Double check the distance from scope to target. Either you were way off or the scope really isn't 1/8 moa per click. Perhaps it's a chinese conversion error


Well, the ranges are marked, so I doubt I was off all that much.


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Blah, blah, woof, woof...


Yeah, my manual says that, too.  Page 3.  I read it.  That's what I did (which I'm pretty sure I said in my post above).

What's your point?
9/30/2007 7:29:49 PM EDT
[#18]

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If I had a gun called an "Ultra Match" and it shot groups like that, I would be furious.


Ditto. I think my FAL with surplus ammo will do about that good.

I thought thoughs high tech AR's were one hole groupers.
9/30/2007 8:41:32 PM EDT
[#19]

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If I had a gun called an "Ultra Match" and it shot groups like that, I would be furious.


Ditto. I think my FAL with surplus ammo will do about that good.

I thought thoughs high tech AR's were one hole groupers.


Guatamala 'B' gunshow crap ammo.  WTF do you expect?  Buy me some match-grade stuff and I'll give it a try!

I think about 1000 rounds should be enough to start with
9/30/2007 8:53:56 PM EDT
[#20]

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cool the mods in or are uptight!
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