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2/3/2007 7:53:10 AM EDT
The (not really) Governor gets one right:

From KING5 News



Governor signs funeral protest bill

05:49 PM PST on Friday, February 2, 2007

Associated Press and KING 5 News
Chris Ingalls reports

OLYMPIA, Wash. - Governor Christine Gregoire signed legislation Friday to restrict demonstrations at funerals. It takes effect immediately.

Gregoire says it's needed to ensure that families of soldiers can mourn their loved ones in a respectful environment.

“They created chaos for those families. So my heart goes out to them. When our men and women lose their lives defending this country the least we can do is show respect for them and allow them to mourn in peace," Gov. Gregoire said.

The legislation is aimed at followers of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas. They have been demonstrating at military funerals around the country, saying the deaths are God's wrath on the United States for tolerating homosexuality.

Members of the church say they will respect the new 500-foot buffer as they demonstrate Saturday at military funerals in Spokane and McCleary. The church had also planned to demonstrate at a funeral in Yakima, but it says there are too many funerals to get to all of them.

The signing was attended by family members of deceased service personnel, who told the governor of the extra pain the protests cause already grief-stricken families.

2/3/2007 8:12:25 AM EDT
[#1]
One of the few things that I think the Governor has done right. Too bad there is no provision for the legal beating of protestors.
2/3/2007 8:18:08 AM EDT
[#2]
The peices of shit plan on protesting at this funeral if anybody would like to show up and support the greiving family.


Service at Ferris today

The funeral for a 21-year-old Spokane man killed in Iraq last month will be held at 11 a.m. today in the auditorium at Ferris High School, 3020 E. 37th Ave.

Darrel J. Morris, a 2004 Ferris graduate, was killed in Anbar province on Jan. 21 when his vehicle was damaged by an improvised explosive device, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.

Morris was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force from Camp Lejeune, N.C.

The funeral is open to the public.
2/3/2007 10:14:32 AM EDT
[#3]
They often threaten to show up at funerals only to get folks worked up.  They usually don't show up as much as they show up.

Anyone interested in being part of a counter-protest can check with the Patriot Guard Riders.  They are not just for folks that have been fooled by the HD marketing machine.
2/4/2007 6:26:06 PM EDT
[#4]
They said they were going to be at the funeral held here in McCleary.  Thankfully, they decided not to show up.
2/4/2007 6:43:25 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
One of the few things that I think the Governor has done right. Too bad there is no provision for the legal beating of protestors.


+1
2/4/2007 7:19:44 PM EDT
[#6]
It seems like this kind of behavior could be covered by existing law:


RCW 9A.84.030
Disorderly conduct.

(1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if he:

-     (a) Uses abusive language and thereby intentionally creates a risk of assault; or

-     (b) Intentionally disrupts any lawful assembly or meeting of persons without lawful authority; or

-     (c) Intentionally obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic without lawful authority.

    (2) Disorderly conduct is a misdemeanor.

[1975 1st ex.s. c 260 § 9A.84.030.]
2/4/2007 7:33:19 PM EDT
[#7]
At the risk of being misunderstood and flamed, I must admit to having mixed emotions about this particular law.  

I find the behavior of those protesting at the funerals of our fallen servicemen to be abhorent in the extreme.  However, anything that limits the rights of free speech and protest also troubles me.  

I agree that it could be handled under the exisiting law and see this as more appearance than substance.  

If we do not protect the rights of even the most abhorent to speak, then we protect the rights of no one.  We keep saying that no one has a right to not be offended, and bad manners or ignorant behavior are also things from which we are not protected.  This could set a bad precedent on our willingness to accept the limitation of rights to do or say things the majority finds wrong.

Just thinking out loud, and probably should have thought this out more before putting it in writing.
2/4/2007 8:14:48 PM EDT
[#8]
I have a sick little fantasy involving Fred Phelps, a 85#-draw Browning compound bow and a very evil broadhead arrowhead.
2/4/2007 8:59:06 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
The (not really) Governor gets one right:

From KING5 News



Governor signs funeral protest bill

05:49 PM PST on Friday, February 2, 2007

Associated Press and KING 5 News
Chris Ingalls reports

OLYMPIA, Wash. - Governor Christine Gregoire signed legislation Friday to restrict demonstrations at funerals. It takes effect immediately.

Gregoire says it's needed to ensure that families of soldiers can mourn their loved ones in a respectful environment.

“They created chaos for those families. So my heart goes out to them. When our men and women lose their lives defending this country the least we can do is show respect for them and allow them to mourn in peace," Gov. Gregoire said.

The legislation is aimed at followers of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas. They have been demonstrating at military funerals around the country, saying the deaths are God's wrath on the United States for tolerating homosexuality.

Members of the church say they will respect the new 500-foot buffer as they demonstrate Saturday at military funerals in Spokane and McCleary. The church had also planned to demonstrate at a funeral in Yakima, but it says there are too many funerals to get to all of them.

The signing was attended by family members of deceased service personnel, who told the governor of the extra pain the protests cause already grief-stricken families.



Hurray for blog material!
2/5/2007 7:06:59 AM EDT
[#10]
I sort of disagree with this law.  It seems that the disorderly conduct laws already in place could be used to cover this.  And as long as they aren't actually causing problem they do have the right of free speech.  It's especially the disgusting speech, and the anti-government speech that needs protecting.  It's easy to protect what you agree with, but the unpopular stuff has just as much right to be heard.

And of course there is  line that shouldn't be crossed.  Standing there quietly holding their signs, or even having some pamplets or whatever is ok.  Trying to shout down any funeral rights, or tryingto disrupt the funeral in any way is not.
2/5/2007 7:17:33 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I sort of disagree with this law.  It seems that the disorderly conduct laws already in place could be used to cover this.  And as long as they aren't actually causing problem they do have the right of free speech.  It's especially the disgusting speech, and the anti-government speech that needs protecting.  It's easy to protect what you agree with, but the unpopular stuff has just as much right to be heard.

And of course there is  line that shouldn't be crossed.  Standing there quietly holding their signs, or even having some pamplets or whatever is ok.  Trying to shout down any funeral rights, or tryingto disrupt the funeral in any way is not.



I just think people that protest the war at the funeral of a soldier that gave their life have no tact.  If you want to protest the war, go for it.  But fly your ass to Washington D.C. and stand out in front of the White House to do it.  I guess a part me doesn't even understand the entire point of protesting.  I personally can't think of one instance where a politician changed their mind or changed a policy because a bunch of people stood there with catchy chants, bongo drums, and signs.
2/5/2007 7:26:46 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I sort of disagree with this law.  It seems that the disorderly conduct laws already in place could be used to cover this.  And as long as they aren't actually causing problem they do have the right of free speech.  It's especially the disgusting speech, and the anti-government speech that needs protecting.  It's easy to protect what you agree with, but the unpopular stuff has just as much right to be heard.

And of course there is  line that shouldn't be crossed.  Standing there quietly holding their signs, or even having some pamplets or whatever is ok.  Trying to shout down any funeral rights, or tryingto disrupt the funeral in any way is not.



I just think people that protest the war at the funeral of a soldier that gave their life have no tact.  If you want to protest the war, go for it.  But fly your ass to Washington D.C. and stand out in front of the White House to do it.  I guess a part me doesn't even understand the entire point of protesting.  I personally can't think of one instance where a politician changed their mind or changed a policy because a bunch of people stood there with catchy chants, bongo drums, and signs.



Vietnam comes to mind.
2/5/2007 7:57:38 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I sort of disagree with this law.  It seems that the disorderly conduct laws already in place could be used to cover this.  And as long as they aren't actually causing problem they do have the right of free speech.  It's especially the disgusting speech, and the anti-government speech that needs protecting.  It's easy to protect what you agree with, but the unpopular stuff has just as much right to be heard.

And of course there is  line that shouldn't be crossed.  Standing there quietly holding their signs, or even having some pamplets or whatever is ok.  Trying to shout down any funeral rights, or tryingto disrupt the funeral in any way is not.



I just think people that protest the war at the funeral of a soldier that gave their life have no tact.  If you want to protest the war, go for it.  But fly your ass to Washington D.C. and stand out in front of the White House to do it.  I guess a part me doesn't even understand the entire point of protesting.  I personally can't think of one instance where a politician changed their mind or changed a policy because a bunch of people stood there with catchy chants, bongo drums, and signs.



Vietnam comes to mind.


Correct me if I'm wrong, after all I wasn't even a stain in my dads shorts during the time of Vietnam. But wasn't the US's heaviest involvement between 1964 and 1972?  Maybe I didn't word it well enough above, but somehow I doubt the hippys decided in 70-71 that they should start to protest and suddenly everyone in Washington thought they were right and started the with draw of troops.
2/5/2007 8:14:38 AM EDT
[#14]
C&7 yes the hippy's brought the peoples will to light. Just like now many politicians were saying time is up for war. (never does last for long though)