Posted: 9/28/2006 7:15:44 PM EDT
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Katrina hit multiple states making the disaster federal jurisdiction, but Jr. said the states had to ask in the right way or he could not respond but when Ruby ridge happened under Mr. read my lips senior they had no problem sending federal troops. No matter how many mistakes are made not one of them is in our favor, if it was just incompetence the errors would be in our favor once in a while. Washington is at risk for all kinds of catastrophic disasters, giant earth quakes, volcanic eruption, floods, ice stroms, wind storms etc. believing the government will come to the rescue is a fatal mistake, stadiums have been built to imprison parts of the population, FEMA has developed the logistics for death camps and on and on with the passage of the new bill to kill Americans under the guise of catching terrorists and the absolute death of the bill of rights preparation should be high on the list as open warfare breaks out.
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Perhaps you have forgotten but many people died in the superdome not to mention all the people that followed directions to stay in one place until FEMA could rescue them, they died without water or any medical care. As i said before if they were incompetent they would make a mistake in our favor but this never happens so obviously it is planned and carried out with exceptional efficiency. |
I seem to be "forgetting" lots this week.  Ya know, for someone that is talking about how the Militia is working with the Incident Command System, I find it hard to understand how you cant see that the break down started out at the local level... Im by all means not sticking up for the Fed's, but they should have been there and ready to go at least 72 hours before, or been 72 hours later then they were there if stuff worked out correctly. I blame Ray, and each and every single individual for the situation they put themselves in.  BTW: ICS is out, IMS is in,and NIMS classes's are free online to citizens even.  Now is the range open, I really need to blow off some steam...It has been a rough week. 
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Everyday people were the first responders to their neighbors, and Canada was the first non-local responder way ahead of the feds, proof positive the poor response by FEMA was a thesis to gain more powers and it worked splendedly for them, but the people of Washington state are still on their own in a major disaster, all FEMA will acomplish is the same as Katrina, they prevent locals from rescuing or aiding those in need, as FEMA stopped people from using private boats to deliver emergency supplies via waterways . why would you support a system designed to fail ? |
Im starting to see a trend here... There is also a guy that cried to the News this week, that should have checked his voice mail, and US Mail. |
Not remembering an "offical" number from the Superdome I looked around a little This says 6-10 out of appx 30,000 at the Superdome.
www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09_26.html seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002520986_katmyth26.html To me a camp where people happen to be when they die isn't what most people would call a Death Camp in my mind a Death Camp is a place where people are sent for the purpose being killed, and none of them are expected to remain among the living. |
Everyday people should be the first responders, that is how the system is supposed to work, Canada may have been the first non-local responder, but they did not show up before the (sad) showing of the NOLA PD, and the one that piss's me off to no end, because of the OUTSTANDING ABOVE AND BEYOND job of the NOLA Fire dept. ( You dont hear one bad thing about them, they had no one jump ship, and the chief was a model of how it should have been done.). and the Dont forget the USCG... Im not defending FEMA, just not buying all of your goods.
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That is the way I was brought up... |
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FEMA was not designed to be a first responder, it was instead supposed to coordinate and possibly fund rescue efforts in the event of an emergency. ie: A Seattle Earthquake. The City of Seattle is the primary responder. Then King Co. Then the State of WA. When local/state resources can no longer handle the emergency, FEMA is supposed to be informed by the primary responders and then coordinate the distribution of federal resources. FEMA was never intended to be a primary response agency. Truely the blame for the Karina debacle, falls on the shoulders of Nagin and Blanco. |
It still boils down to, you're nuts to trust the government in the event of an emergency. The gov't was evicting people who were safe and supplied in their homes, while people were trapped on their roofs and in their attics for days. Where were their priorities? If FEMA were on the ground in NOLA 72 hours prior to the hurricane, it wouldn't have helped, since the local and state governments evacuated along with the population. There was a skeleton crew of service workers, who were paralyzed in place by the water. |
Why would you want to put your life in someone elses hands intentionally. Has society become that lazy that they expect hand outs and direction of there lives? |
"On Ground" would mean staged in places like DFW, Florida,Georgia ready to deploy. I am of the mindset 100% that in any disaster it is each man and family for themselves. But those that are unable to help themselves still need their neighbors. and then following depending on the situation, is when the Local govt starts the rescue/recovery process...FEMA comes in as the resources are been exausted. That is the way it is supposed to work, not some welfare system like the citizens of NOLA are bitching that they did not get in time. |
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' Ronald Reagan The Katrina debacle showed goverment ineptness at it's worse. I still contend the majority of the blame lies at the city level. That's where the orders to confiscate weapons and evacuate survivors came from. I do not plan on the government helping me out in times of emergency. Nor do I expect it. But, I will take whatever they offer if it helps me out. (MRE's, Visa Cards etc.) |
To preface : I want to thank you and extend my appreciation of the vital LEO service you do protecting the nation at it's borders.  But i must disagree with the assertion that the mess was locally controlled as the chief criminals were CA highway patrol and AR NG confiscating arms not the mention the 82ndAB and the rest slogging around LA and MS. EM responders traveled from all across the nation to aid in the relief work of the disaster but FEMA demanded they go through sex sensitivity training first, did not allow them to protect themselves.
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Pretty Much how I was raised... Just them poor bastards being groomed in a Wellfare state that haven't got a chance. Born Victims, with feelings of entitlement... No REAL idea as to how to act or what to do in an emergencey... It's true of all your big cities... |