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9/2/2006 12:23:46 PM EDT
Hey folks,

I'm ready to settle in and buy a surplus rifle for pinking, possibly for hunting.

The Russian M44, 91/30 has caught my eye due to the low cost of the firearm and ammo.

Are there certain models that are more desireble than others?

What local shop has these avaliable?

Thanks!
9/2/2006 1:47:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I would suggest any of the shorter Mosin-Nagants.  The problem with the M44 is the heavy, lanky side-bayonet - while cool, it's a bit of a hinderance to hunting unless you don't mind taking it on and off...

As far as I know, most every one of the makers of Nagants has put their rifles through various "refurbs" and "rearsenals" in the last 50-60 years, so you can pretty much expect the  same level of value from any of them.  

The Finnish Nagants are slightly prized but are typically Russian in origin, but rehab'ed with nicer parts.

Otherwise, I'd visit a Big 5 or two, perhaps Bullseye's or Mary's Pistols and have a look over their 91/30's and M38's.  Find something you like - you can't go wrong at the price.

And you're right - ammo is SUPER cheap - buy a case or two and start plinking!!!

9/2/2006 2:45:25 PM EDT
[#2]
I would suggest looking at the 91/59 Mosin....they are cut down 91/30's, as such the barrels are a tad heavier. My 91/59 is accurate enough for hunting.
Not finding a 91/59 I would suggest a M-38 carbine...no bayo to fudge with.

eta..Big 5 carries these....G.I. Joes does sometimes as well.
9/2/2006 2:54:51 PM EDT
[#3]
What part of the state are you in? Mary's in Tacoma has some M-44s and an M-38 with laminate stocks that look really nice for good prices. I know my GI Joe's in Lakewood has M-38s right now, they go for about $100. 91/59s are going to be hard to find; I'm just glad I got mine from Big 5 years ago as an after Thanksgiving special $50 for a beautiful rifle.
9/2/2006 3:13:10 PM EDT
[#4]
I am a huge fan of the M38, nice little brush gun if you want it for hunting. But to be honest I really like all of the old Russian stuff.
9/2/2006 4:12:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Go for a Swiss K31.
9/2/2006 5:48:24 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Go for a Swiss K31.


Outstanding rifle ( I would say the best, but that is just me), but the price of ammo makes it prohibitive as a plinker at this point in time, even with WOLF producing ammo for it now.
9/2/2006 7:33:06 PM EDT
[#7]
I picked up an M38 Mosin from GI Joes a few months back. I realy like it, and fireballs are cool...
9/2/2006 7:38:08 PM EDT
[#8]
Mary's has several
9/2/2006 7:38:38 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm pretty sure that I'm going to get a M44 in the next couple of weeks.
9/2/2006 7:41:35 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I'm pretty sure that I'm going to get a M44 in the next couple of weeks.


If you dont have a 91/30 or a M38, get the M38 first.

The 91/30 is too long, and the M38 is the M44 without that abortion of a bayonet.

I still need a M44, And a PLO milled AK kit,  I will then have all of the common Russian  rifles, then I can work on the Pistols.
9/2/2006 7:49:50 PM EDT
[#11]

I'm not interested in the 91/30 just the 38 or 44 carbines, and I like bayonets.  

Although I have an "idea" to look into and the bayonetless 38 would work better for that.  
9/2/2006 8:35:25 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I'm not interested in the 91/30 just the 38 or 44 carbines, and I like bayonets.



Everyone should!...

That's what makes the grass grow!.
9/2/2006 9:49:52 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I'm pretty sure that I'm going to get a M44 in the next couple of weeks.


I'll sell you mine, make an offer.
9/2/2006 11:15:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Dude!!!

I Still love my Mosin M44...  Compare $1800 for my newest AR(+trinkets) or $59.99+tax...  Its the rifle I spnd the most time shooting hands down...  Leaves me with bruises
9/3/2006 3:14:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Last batch of ammo i picked up for mine was some Wolf 200 grain soft point. A buddy of mine that shoots surplus ammo said he couldnt handle it with out a recoil pad. Me i like big fireballs so i get the hotter ammo
9/3/2006 8:53:52 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I'm pretty sure that I'm going to get a M44 in the next couple of weeks.


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