Posted: 2/2/2005 8:56:48 AM EDT
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Woke up to a lovely message on my cell phone this morning. A guy I fired last month just called to tell me all the things I f@&ked up in his life. "I know you f@$ked me on the last two paychecks and your going to f@$k me as a reference. IT'S A GOOD THING FOR YOU THAT I DON'T WANT TO GO TO F@&KING JAIL" That's a little paraphrased, he had a lot of "Whatever"s in there and way more foul language. Some meth heads just never change. I really think he's done permanent damage with the drugs. I've been giving him chances for just over a year now. He's actually still into the company for $1800 because I've been floating him for a few paychecks just so ends would meet before Christmas. Oh well, you try to do right by someone and give them all the chance in the world. I just wish my CPL would get here. I applied for it on the 19th, the day before I fired him. He has me by at least a hundred lbs. |
Arent tweakers skinny? For your sake, I hope you don't have to whack him. |
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Dam he must of not been doing meth for very long if gots u by 100lbs or u are really small edit to add: document it to the police that he threating u so if shit does hit fan its already on record that he been threating u
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| I would think documenting any communications with this person would be a good thing to do at this point. Have you talked to LEO yet? Chances are probably in favor of nothing ever coming from this, but better safe than sorry. A restraining order might not be a bad idea. If he truly was that bad of an employee, his actions will cause him career harm, not yours. |
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I thought meth head were skinny too. He goes on a bender about every month and a half. As far as I know he's been doing this for years. He also drinks heavily. Not sure what the combined effects of that are. I know his brain isn't wired right anymore (if it ever was) even without being on drugs. I'm around 160 and mostly muscle. He's got to be at least 250 or more, mostly old english gut. I saved the message on my cell phone. I suppose I should report it. Should I just call the station and ask to make out a report? I don't think I need to go as far as getting a restraining order. I'm sure he won't do anything, he really is a big wimp. I really hope I don't have to do anything too him either. no matter what the reason I don't want to find out what it's like to shoot someone. |
It can't hurt to type up a transcription of this message and send a copy to your attorney-- and the funny thing about either meth or alcohol is the way they make things you wouldn't ordinarily do look like such a wonderful, fulfilling idea. This is why it's important to document the threat he made against you. He's already screwed himself; don't let him do it to your family. (I really hate hearing about things like this...)
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Couple of thoughts: Doesn't WA State law provide for concealed carry anyhere within the boundry of your own property? Doesn't it also allow for a business owner to carry concealed without a permit at his place of business? And yes, by all means, make a report. Normally, back when I was a PI, I would take harrassed clients down to the PD, contact the "Desk Sgt.", and play the message for them. 99.9% of the time, they'll help you file a report, and give you a incident number. Think of it as cheap insurance. |
Yea, I've been keeping my sig on me in a holster when I'm around the house. It's just when I go out I can't take it with me.
I build houses so I'm not sure how that would apply since we don't have a fixed place of business. I'd have to get a holster to fit on my tool belt. My friend made a good point yesterday about carrying a piece without my CPL yet: "It's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six." |
| Its not all that hard to get your CPL. $60, a finger print card and a trip to the local CLEO. If your in Snohomish go into the sheriffs office any MWF (office is closed to the public TT?) ask to apply and your on your way. There are ways to carry 24/7 regardless what you do for a living. |
On top of that the odds of being discovered with a weapon are VERY slim unless you are doing the kinds of things to get you searched in the first place, which I am assuming you are not. |
BULLSHIT! I take at least 10 of these calls a day..... You call 9-1-1...not the Non-Emergency number for this one. They will ask you " where did it happin" so they can determin Juris...Dont say shit about your cell phone, you just tell them you have received a threatining phone call, and that you have suspect information...Give them your address, and they will enter a " Harassment" call for you... When the ofcr/Dep shows up, fill out the statement, then get your case number. Goto the court house and do a restraining order if you have to. If the ofcr wont take a statement you get his badge number and department and let me know... To bad you are not in Sno Co. you would have your permit in 72 hours... |
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Washington state constitution SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this Section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men. |
| I ran into about the same situation a couple months ago. A new hire was fired on day 2 or 3, while I was working on the same jobsite. He started an arguement with another contractor who was walking by, said he was going to kill him a few times and so on. The owner said he needed to leave as it wasn't working out. The guy came unglued and started yelling and saying he was gonna put people in the grave and started punching himself full on in the face. After watching this and seeing him reach for his hammer every time he said he was going to kill someone I went and got my Sig245 from the truck. I dont normally carry during work, but I made an exception based on the situation. I ended up drawing on him as he was attempting to punch me, it put a stop to that and he stopped threatening people and left after repeatedly saying he was going to call the cops on me. I have a mandate from God to go home in the same or better shape then I left, if that means having to shoot in self defense some foaming at the meth freak who cant take being fired, then so be it. My advice, get a smaller pistol to carry on your person for the time being regardless of your CPL status. File a report, write a statement documenting the events, possibly have it notarised or some other official date process, (have it date stamped tthe PO if they'll do that for you), record the voicemail to a cassette or cd if you can., via speaker phone and recorder since voicemails will oly save for 30 days, in my experience. HTH and good luck, |
+1. Furthermore, IF you have no joy with the PD or Sheriff's office, make a phone call to the prosecuting attorney's office and insist on speaking with a deputy prosecutor. Restraining orders are useful, if only as documentation that you honored the threat. You'll want to do everything possible to avoid this conflict. If you drill him, you'll be well advised to get yourself a lawyer, if only for one police interview. This will cost $$$$.$$ and will drain your gun purchase fund.
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Pre-emptive strike, its US policy , Kidding of course. Your just gonna have to stay on your toes and be alot more alert for awhile. Getting a concealed permit to carrry a pistol and keeping a 12guage in the house is a good start. Motion lights are cheap and make sure you got good locks. Hope it all turns out ok for you.
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R-32 knows what he is talking about he deals with these situations all day everyday. What I deal with all day everyday in the restoration of the republic which can not be done by appeasing the criminals, appeasement only emboldens them and makes things worse for everybody but the crimials. So the Washington state constitution is mere ramblings to you ?
The laws of the constitutional republic were founded upon the words of those "historical figures" because they were only quoting the words of the Creator, no better source of inspiration exists. Liberty is dangerous but do you know what happens when you give up liberty for security?
The police can not protect you, read the book "dail 911 and die" this is the only picture the criminal see's 
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I got my CPL in the mail last night when I got home. Talked to my lawyer and she told me about the anti-harasment order. I'm not going to bother with that. This guy is big but he's a pushover. He's more likely to throw rocks through my windows and slink away without confronting me. I got some locking gas caps for my truck to keep the sugar out. I'm going to record the message off my phone. So far he hasn't called back and I don't really expect him too. If it starts happening on a regular basis I'll go get the order. Heading over to WAC at 10 to get some buck shot and .45. |