Question From Out-of-Stater > Pennsylvania

Posted: 4/27/2015 12:20:13 AM EDT

I'm interested in buying my parents a GLOCK 43 (believe it or not, mostly for my mother). My mom was telling me that my dad bought a .22 pistol from a friend of theirs and he had to go to a Gander Mountain to fill out transfer paperwork. Is this a PA thing or is my mom somehow mistaken about what happened? Ideally, I'd like to present the gun to them as a gift when they come down here to GA for Thanksgiving. Can I just give it to them, and they just simply drive it home to PA? Thanks!

Posted: 4/27/2015 7:29:22 AM EDT

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I'm interested in buying my parents a GLOCK 43 (believe it or not, mostly for my mother). My mom was telling me that my dad bought a .22 pistol from a friend of theirs and he had to go to a Gander Mountain to fill out transfer paperwork. Is this a PA thing or is my mom somehow mistaken about what happened? Ideally, I'd like to present the gun to them as a gift when they come down here to GA for Thanksgiving. Can I just give it to them, and they just simply drive it home to PA? Thanks!

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PA doesn't allow FTF pistol transfers. They have to go through a dealer to transfer, unless it's to a spouse, child or grandchild, then you can just give it to them.

In your case it's a federal thing though. You are only allowed to transfer firearms to someone with the same state of residency without going through a dealer. In the case of a pistol the dealer needs to be in the buyers state.

The easiest completely legal way would be to hold onto the pistol until the next time you visit PA, bring it with you, and transfer to your Mom at a dealer in PA.

ETA: I don't know what Gander Mountain charges, but typically a small shop or basement gunsmith will do a transfer for less than the big chains. Don't pay more than $25.

Posted: 4/27/2015 1:28:02 PM EDT

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I would purchase the gun online and have it shipped to a dealer local to them that charges about $25.00. There are lots of FFL's in PA working out of their house that do transfers. Buds, CDNN Sports and several others to purchase. No tax this way as well.

Posted: 4/27/2015 6:44:08 PM EDT

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I can purchase the pistol and ship it myself to a dealer too, right? As long as it's overnighted?

Posted: 4/27/2015 8:44:24 PM EDT

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I can purchase the pistol and ship it myself to a dealer too, right? As long as it's overnighted?

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Correct, just confirm the receiving FFL will accept it from a non FFL. Some don't for some reason.

What part of PA does your mom live? Maybe someone can recommend a good FFL.

Posted: 4/30/2015 7:51:12 AM EDT

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She lives outside of Chambersburg.

Posted: 4/30/2015 4:31:10 PM EDT

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Try:

Heckman's Sporting Goods
Heckman, John E
5775 Guitner Rd
Chambersburg, PA 17202

Jack works out of his house. I've used him a few times and I think the last transfer was $18, although that was few years ago.

Posted: 4/30/2015 8:13:42 PM EDT

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PA doesn't allow FTF pistol transfers. They have to go through a dealer to transfer, unless it's to a spouse, child or grandchild, then you can just give it to them.

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Question about this, ShooterPatriot - My father-in-law would like to give my wife one of his pistols. We were just planning on doing a transfer when our schedules line up, but can this FTF be done legally even if it's not a part of an 'willed' estate?

I never knew you could gift a pistol to a spouse or child/grandchild.

ETA: Read up on this and it looks like you're 100% correct:

§ 6111.  Sale or transfer of firearms.

(a)  Time and manner of delivery.--

(1)  Except as provided in paragraph (2), no seller shall deliver a firearm to the purchaser or transferee thereof until 48

 hours shall have elapsed from the time of the application for the purchase thereof, and, when delivered, the firearm

 shall be securely wrapped and shall be unloaded.

(2)  Thirty days after publication in the Pennsylvania Bulletin that the Instantaneous

 Criminal History Records Check System has been established in accordance with the Brady Handgun Violence

 Prevention Act (Public Law 103-159, 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq.), no seller shall deliver a firearm to the

 purchaser thereof until the provisions of this section have been satisfied, and, when delivered, the firearm shall be

 securely wrapped and shall be unloaded.

(b)  Duty of seller.--No licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or licensed dealer shall sell or deliver any firearm

 to another person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer or licensed collector,

 until the conditions of subsection (a) have been satisfied and until he has:

(1)  For purposes of a firearm as defined in section 6102 (relating to definitions), obtained a completed

 application/record of sale from the potential buyer or transferee to be filled out in triplicate, the original copy to be

 sent to the Pennsylvania State Police, postmarked via first class mail, 

within 14 days of the sale, one copy to be retained by the licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or

 licensed dealer for a period of 20 years and one copy to be provided to the purchaser or transferee. 

The form of this application/record of sale shall be no more than one page in length and shall be promulgated

 by the Pennsylvania State Police and provided by the licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or licensed dealer.

 The application/record of sale shall include the name, address, birthdate, gender, race, physical description

 and Social Security number of the purchaser or transferee, the date of the application and the caliber, 

length of barrel, make, model and manufacturer's number of the firearm to be purchased or transferred. 

The application/record of sale shall also contain the following question:

Are you the actual buyer of the firearm(s), as defined under 18 Pa.C.S. § 6102 (relating to definitions),

 listed on this application/record of sale? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s)

 on behalf of another person, unless you are legitimately acquiring the firearm as a gift for any of the following

individuals who are legally eligible to own a firearm:

(1)  spouse;

(2)  parent;

(3)  child;

(4)  grandparent; or

(5)  grandchild.

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