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10/27/2009 7:58:34 AM EDT

Have a friend, who is a PA resident.  His father is a MN resident, and wants to bring a Glock 30 out for Christmas and give it to his son / my friend.  Looking for the proper & legal way to accomplish this.  Obviously this needs to go through a PA FFL, but can his father bring it with him and transfer it in person, or does he need to ship it to a PA FFL before he travels?  

Regards,
Matthew
10/27/2009 8:29:57 AM EDT
[#1]
He can bring it with him and do the transfer at an FFL in PA.

ETA: Actually, PA allows direct relatives, such as father and sons, to transfer without going through an FFL. I don't know how  the father being from another state would impact that, though.
10/28/2009 1:26:41 PM EDT
[#2]





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ETA: Actually, PA allows direct relatives, such as father and sons, to transfer without going through an FFL. I don't know how  the father being from another state would impact that, though.








Not unless the father passes away and the executor of the estate makes the transfer AND as long as PA or MN does not restrict such transfers.



Ship to FFL or transport to PA and transfer from father to son using a PA FFL like you said.





 
10/28/2009 5:14:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Actually, it appears death and estate have nothing to do with it:

"The provisions of this section shall not apply to transfers between spouses or to transfers between a parent and child or to transfers between grandparent and grandchild."

From section (c) of 18 Pa.C.S. ยง 6111 http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/18/II/G/61/A/6111/sale-or-transfer-of-firearms/

But again, father being out of state is probably an issue.
10/28/2009 5:15:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
He can bring it with him and do the transfer at an FFL in PA.

ETA: Actually, PA allows direct relatives, such as father and sons, to transfer without going through an FFL. I don't know how  the father being from another state would impact that, though.


edit - can't read  

  Handgun transfers must be done by an FFL or co. Sheriff - and the recipient has to pass a PICS

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=4451&&PageID=462425&level=2&css=L2&mode=2


A out of state  FATHER can GIVE a handgun to his son - but the PICS must still be done.

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10/29/2009 5:28:20 AM EDT
[#5]







Quoted:




Actually, it appears death and estate have nothing to do with it:
But again, father being out of state is probably an issue.





Quoted:





A out of state  FATHER can GIVE a handgun to his son - but the PICS must still be done.







"Death and Estate" are exemptions under federal law. If you are a resident of state A and travel to state B the gun must be transferred by a FFL with a 4473 and PICS/NICS check. Federal law is the "floor" and irrespective of state law you still must comply with federal law on all gun transfers.