FTF Sales > Pennsylvania

Posted: 3/17/2008 10:28:34 AM EDT

Can I sell a rifle to a out of state resident ftf?

Thanks

Posted: 3/17/2008 11:19:50 AM EDT

[#1]

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No can't do it. In PA FTF sales of long arms are allowed between residents of PA, but anything involving someone in another state needs to go through a FFL

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Posted: 3/17/2008 11:22:03 AM EDT

[#2]

Thats what I figured. Just double checking.

Posted: 3/20/2008 10:59:55 AM EDT

[#3]

Not true as long as the out of stater has a fid card and license for a longarm..

Posted: 3/20/2008 11:34:09 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Not true as long as the out of stater has a fid card and license for a longarm..

Sorry but your incorrect.

ATF says no PRIVATE sales to unlicensed individuals across state lines...

www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm

B. UNLICENSED PERSONS

(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA? [Back]

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his or her state, if the buyer is not prohibited by law from receiving or possessing a firearm, or to a licensee in any state. A firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? [Back]

A person may only buy a firearm within the person's own state, except that he or she may buy a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any state, provided the sale complies with state laws applicable in the state of sale and the state where the purchaser resides. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-state source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the
purchaser's own state? [Back]

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-state source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's state of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

Posted: 3/22/2008 6:12:28 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not true as long as the out of stater has a fid card and license for a longarm..

Sorry but your incorrect.

ATF says no PRIVATE sales to unlicensed individuals across state lines...

www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm

This says you must be legal to won in your state and also the seller must legally owne in his or her state..It goes only for rifle or shotgun a way for the ffl too make money..But if doing so to a n.j resident i would have them bring or print out certificate of eligbility...

B. UNLICENSED PERSONS

(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA? [Back]

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his or her state, if the buyer is not prohibited by law from receiving or possessing a firearm, or to a licensee in any state. A firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? [Back]

A person may only buy a firearm within the person's own state, except that he or she may buy a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any state, provided the sale complies with state laws applicable in the state of sale and the state where the purchaser resides. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-state source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the
purchaser's own state? [Back]

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-state source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's state of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

Posted: 3/22/2008 2:05:18 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
This says you must be legal to won in your state and also the seller must legally owne in his or her state..It goes only for rifle or shotgun a way for the ffl too make money..But if doing so to a n.j resident i would have them bring or print out certificate of eligbility...

I"m not really clear on what your trying to say

If the person selling and the person buying are not residents of the same state, regardless if its a rifle, shotgun or handgun a private FTF is not legal, even if they have a "certificate of eligbility" ( is that a NJ thing ?) or not. That's an interstate transaction governed by Federal law and has to go through a FFL.

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Posted: 3/22/2008 5:16:59 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Not true as long as the out of stater has a fid card and license for a longarm..

I think you are mistaking a "license to own" or a "license to carry" for a Federal Firearms License.

Being "licensed" to own has nothing to do with an ATF-legal transfer through an FFL.

Posted: 3/22/2008 6:20:40 PM EDT

[#8]

Babbaboey,

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his or her state, if the buyer is not prohibited by law from receiving or possessing a firearm, or to a licensee in any state

Let me re-state the above:

A person may sell a firearm to a plain old citizen of his or her state, if the buyer is not prohibited by law from receiving or possessing a firearm, or to a holder of an FFL in any state.

You, as a person who does not hold an FFL (an "unlicensed person"), can not transfer a firearm to someone who does not reside in your state, unless said person holds a Federal Firearms License.

Please understand this... if a PA resident were to transfer a firearm to a NJ resident, both would be guilty of violating federal firearms laws. The same goes the other way - if you were to transfer a firearm to a PA resident, the same laws would be violated.

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