Posted: 5/27/2013 9:27:29 PM EDT
Went out with the AR's. I was pretty damn proud of myself. I've never really hunted jacks before, just shot them with my 12ga if they popped up when chasing quail. As a warm up, I hit a ground squirrel - on the run - with a one shot kill - a clean headshot. I gotta figure if I can hit small critters on the run with my AR..... 
It's got a few graphic photos. Popped the eyeball out of one of them. Mostly just shooting. Sorry the video editing sucks. It's the first time I've really tried actually splicing videos together. Filmed with my Contour Roam mounted to my ear pro. 
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Ground squirrels are not game animals and can not be legally killed unless they are causing property damage.
http://desertwildlifeservices.com/squirrel.htm Legal Status in Arizona All of Arizona's ground squirrel and chipmunk species are classified as non-game animals by the Arizona Game and Fish Department and are protected under ARS Title 17-309. However, may be controlled by any legal means if they are causing damage as per ARS Title 17-239. If live trapped ground squirrels or chipmunks are to be relocated, the Arizona Game and Fish Department must be contacted for an appropriate release site before the animal is transported. |
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Ground squirrels are not game animals and can not be legally killed unless they are causing property damage. http://desertwildlifeservices.com/squirrel.htm Legal Status in Arizona All of Arizona's ground squirrel and chipmunk species are classified as non-game animals by the Arizona Game and Fish Department and are protected under ARS Title 17-309. However, may be controlled by any legal means if they are causing damage as per ARS Title 17-239. If live trapped ground squirrels or chipmunks are to be relocated, the Arizona Game and Fish Department must be contacted for an appropriate release site before the animal is transported. Hmm. I don't know what it was then, because it wasn't any of the animals listed there. Must have been a small rabbit. ETA: Also odd that ARS 17-309 says nothing about them. |
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Ground squirrels are not game animals and can not be legally killed unless they are causing property damage. http://desertwildlifeservices.com/squirrel.htm Legal Status in Arizona All of Arizona's ground squirrel and chipmunk species are classified as non-game animals by the Arizona Game and Fish Department and are protected under ARS Title 17-309. However, may be controlled by any legal means if they are causing damage as per ARS Title 17-239. If live trapped ground squirrels or chipmunks are to be relocated, the Arizona Game and Fish Department must be contacted for an appropriate release site before the animal is transported. All other birds and mammals covers that species of rodent. |
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It's jack season? Ughh... getting tired of this studying thing. They still open after July 24th? Jacks are always in season, as are cottontails. However, I only hunt cottontail for food in the months where it gets below freezing at night. Good to know! Reason why you don't hunt jacks just for food? |
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"Other Birds & Mammals: Commission Order 14" "Bag Limit Unlimited, except for coati which is one (1) per calendar year. [snip] possession Limit Unlimited. Except for coati, which is one (1) per calendar year. To hunt other birds and mammals in Arizona, you need a valid hunting or combination license." "All mammals EXCEPT game mammals, furbearing mammals, predatory mammals, bats, coati, blackfooted ferret, Hualapai vole, Gunnison’s prairie dog, black-tailed prairie dog, jaguar, jaguarundi, ocelot, otter, porcupine and wolves" so in addition to ground squirrels, hunting elephants, cape buffalo, rhino and hippo in AZ is legal per that section.... just in case you wanted to take that .416 Rigby for a hike in the desert :) |
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It's jack season? Ughh... getting tired of this studying thing. They still open after July 24th? Jacks are always in season, as are cottontails. However, I only hunt cottontail for food in the months where it gets below freezing at night. Good to know! Reason why you don't hunt jacks just for food? They taste terrible. If I was starving, I'd eat one. Other than that, no thanks. |
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page 84 of this year's regs say: "Other Birds & Mammals: Commission Order 14" "Bag Limit Unlimited, except for coati which is one (1) per calendar year. [snip] possession Limit Unlimited. Except for coati, which is one (1) per calendar year. To hunt other birds and mammals in Arizona, you need a valid hunting or combination license." "All mammals EXCEPT game mammals, furbearing mammals, predatory mammals, bats, coati, blackfooted ferret, Hualapai vole, Gunnison’s prairie dog, black-tailed prairie dog, jaguar, jaguarundi, ocelot, otter, porcupine and wolves" so in addition to ground squirrels, hunting elephants, cape buffalo, rhino and hippo in AZ is legal per that section.... just in case you wanted to take that .416 Rigby for a hike in the desert :) Covers feral hogs and other feral animals if you can prove they are feral. |
| ^What does one do with the jacks after shooting them? Police them up and dispose of them in a ditch somewhere? I've hunted jacks in CA (12ga w/ #6 shot) and always used them for stew meat. Like you said though, I only did this during the winter months. One of the nastiest things I've ever seen was popping a jack on a shooting trip in a May or June and skinning it to find maggots crawling in/under the surface. Fucking N-A-S-T-Y. |
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page 84 of this year's regs say: "Other Birds & Mammals: Commission Order 14" "Bag Limit Unlimited, except for coati which is one (1) per calendar year. [snip] possession Limit Unlimited. Except for coati, which is one (1) per calendar year. To hunt other birds and mammals in Arizona, you need a valid hunting or combination license." "All mammals EXCEPT game mammals, furbearing mammals, predatory mammals, bats, coati, blackfooted ferret, Hualapai vole, Gunnison’s prairie dog, black-tailed prairie dog, jaguar, jaguarundi, ocelot, otter, porcupine and wolves" so in addition to ground squirrels, hunting elephants, cape buffalo, rhino and hippo in AZ is legal per that section.... just in case you wanted to take that .416 Rigby for a hike in the desert :) You can't hunt ground squirrels or any other nongame on this list. There seems to be some confusion for ground squirrels. In any case, posting videos of blasting away at non-identified species doesn't help the hunting cause. But it did look like fun. Just not something I would be sharing. http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/nongameandendangeredwildlifeprogram/mammals.shtml |
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page 84 of this year's regs say: "Other Birds & Mammals: Commission Order 14" "Bag Limit Unlimited, except for coati which is one (1) per calendar year. [snip] possession Limit Unlimited. Except for coati, which is one (1) per calendar year. To hunt other birds and mammals in Arizona, you need a valid hunting or combination license." "All mammals EXCEPT game mammals, furbearing mammals, predatory mammals, bats, coati, blackfooted ferret, Hualapai vole, Gunnison’s prairie dog, black-tailed prairie dog, jaguar, jaguarundi, ocelot, otter, porcupine and wolves" so in addition to ground squirrels, hunting elephants, cape buffalo, rhino and hippo in AZ is legal per that section.... just in case you wanted to take that .416 Rigby for a hike in the desert :) You can't hunt ground squirrels or any other nongame on this list. There seems to be some confusion for ground squirrels. In any case, posting videos of blasting away at non-identified species doesn't help the hunting cause. But it did look like fun. Just not something I would be sharing. http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/nongameandendangeredwildlifeprogram/mammals.shtml Ground squirrels (except for one rare type found only in the White Mountains) aren't on that list. Nothing shot in the video was unidentified. |
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page 84 of this year's regs say: "Other Birds & Mammals: Commission Order 14" "Bag Limit Unlimited, except for coati which is one (1) per calendar year. [snip] possession Limit Unlimited. Except for coati, which is one (1) per calendar year. To hunt other birds and mammals in Arizona, you need a valid hunting or combination license." "All mammals EXCEPT game mammals, furbearing mammals, predatory mammals, bats, coati, blackfooted ferret, Hualapai vole, Gunnison’s prairie dog, black-tailed prairie dog, jaguar, jaguarundi, ocelot, otter, porcupine and wolves" so in addition to ground squirrels, hunting elephants, cape buffalo, rhino and hippo in AZ is legal per that section.... just in case you wanted to take that .416 Rigby for a hike in the desert :) You can't hunt ground squirrels or any other nongame on this list. There seems to be some confusion for ground squirrels. In any case, posting videos of blasting away at non-identified species doesn't help the hunting cause. But it did look like fun. Just not something I would be sharing. http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/nongameandendangeredwildlifeprogram/mammals.shtml Ground squirrels (except for one rare type found only in the White Mountains) aren't on that list. Nothing shot in the video was unidentified. Yes, thus the confusion. The list is incomplete. But there are many contradictions between, law, Game & Fish and the Game & Fish website. Game & Fish is a bit loose and not always the most well informed group, even though, they are enforcement. What's funny is you read through their blogs and on certain things, they advocate things that are not legal. But what are you going to do. I don't think shooting the unidentified critter that wasn't a jackrabbit or a small bunny is a big deal. Just an FYI. |
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page 84 of this year's regs say: "Other Birds & Mammals: Commission Order 14" "Bag Limit Unlimited, except for coati which is one (1) per calendar year. [snip] possession Limit Unlimited. Except for coati, which is one (1) per calendar year. To hunt other birds and mammals in Arizona, you need a valid hunting or combination license." "All mammals EXCEPT game mammals, furbearing mammals, predatory mammals, bats, coati, blackfooted ferret, Hualapai vole, Gunnison’s prairie dog, black-tailed prairie dog, jaguar, jaguarundi, ocelot, otter, porcupine and wolves" so in addition to ground squirrels, hunting elephants, cape buffalo, rhino and hippo in AZ is legal per that section.... just in case you wanted to take that .416 Rigby for a hike in the desert :) You can't hunt ground squirrels or any other nongame on this list. There seems to be some confusion for ground squirrels. In any case, posting videos of blasting away at non-identified species doesn't help the hunting cause. But it did look like fun. Just not something I would be sharing. http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/nongameandendangeredwildlifeprogram/mammals.shtml Ground squirrels (except for one rare type found only in the White Mountains) aren't on that list. Nothing shot in the video was unidentified. Yes, thus the confusion. The list is incomplete. But there are many contradictions between, law, Game & Fish and the Game & Fish website. Game & Fish is a bit loose and not always the most well informed group, even though, they are enforcement. What's funny is you read through their blogs and on certain things, they advocate things that are not legal. But what are you going to do. I don't think shooting the unidentified critter that wasn't a jackrabbit or a small bunny is a big deal. Just an FYI. If a certain thing us wrong or illegal, I have no problem complying with that law, but so far no evidence has been presented that remotely substantiates it. Evidence to the contrary has been posted. Can someone show conclusively one way or the other? |
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page 84 of this year's regs say: "Other Birds & Mammals: Commission Order 14" "Bag Limit Unlimited, except for coati which is one (1) per calendar year. [snip] possession Limit Unlimited. Except for coati, which is one (1) per calendar year. To hunt other birds and mammals in Arizona, you need a valid hunting or combination license." "All mammals EXCEPT game mammals, furbearing mammals, predatory mammals, bats, coati, blackfooted ferret, Hualapai vole, Gunnison’s prairie dog, black-tailed prairie dog, jaguar, jaguarundi, ocelot, otter, porcupine and wolves" so in addition to ground squirrels, hunting elephants, cape buffalo, rhino and hippo in AZ is legal per that section.... just in case you wanted to take that .416 Rigby for a hike in the desert :) You can't hunt ground squirrels or any other nongame on this list. There seems to be some confusion for ground squirrels. In any case, posting videos of blasting away at non-identified species doesn't help the hunting cause. But it did look like fun. Just not something I would be sharing. http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/nongameandendangeredwildlifeprogram/mammals.shtml Ground squirrels (except for one rare type found only in the White Mountains) aren't on that list. Nothing shot in the video was unidentified. Yes, thus the confusion. The list is incomplete. But there are many contradictions between, law, Game & Fish and the Game & Fish website. Game & Fish is a bit loose and not always the most well informed group, even though, they are enforcement. What's funny is you read through their blogs and on certain things, they advocate things that are not legal. But what are you going to do. I don't think shooting the unidentified critter that wasn't a jackrabbit or a small bunny is a big deal. Just an FYI. If a certain thing us wrong or illegal, I have no problem complying with that law, but so far no evidence has been presented that remotely substantiates it. Evidence to the contrary has been posted. Can someone show conclusively one way or the other? Not really. I've always been told (by varying sources) you can't shoot chipmunks or grounds squirrels and so I went looking and found what I found. But It's not definitive. |
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^What does one do with the jacks after shooting them? Put them in a pile near a water hole. Come back a little later from the downwind side and shoot the coyotes. I'm going to build a fuckin' pyre of ground squirrels and bait some stupid 'yotes over their dead bodies 
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Quoted: Can someone show conclusively one way or the other? First you'll need to be cited. Then you will need to hire an attorney to represent you at the arraignment. Then your attorney will meet with the DA and the cop that wrote the cite. They will have this same conversation. Depending on whose hard on is throbbing more that day, it could go either way right then and there or you can take it to court for the arguments to be heard there. In court is where it will be concluded decisively...for you. The next guy that gets the same cite may have a completely different outcome. Ask me how I know. |