Posted: 2/8/2011 5:59:40 PM EDT
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Plan on open carrying my 1911 every once in a while. As I understand it, as long as it is holstered it can be any where in the car?
I am also wondering about holstering; could I carry IWB or would it have to be outside on my hip? and as far as ammo goes, think I can get away with saying I have a Thompson rifle that takes .45 acp? 
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Yea, not sure how often I will carry, just want to get my info straight.
I was thinking of the BlackHawk SERPA holster VG, haha Im just going to keep doing what Im doing. With or without gun, why not be considerate |
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Quoted: Yea, not sure how often I will carry, just want to get my info straight. I was thinking of the BlackHawk SERPA holster VG, haha Im just going to keep doing what Im doing. With or without gun, why not be considerate I don't know you i just like to point it out whenever open carry comes up how important the perception is of you and your weapon in public, A smile and a thank you sticks with people the next time someone is telling them that only bad people have guns. |
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Yea, not sure how often I will carry, just want to get my info straight. I was thinking of the BlackHawk SERPA holster VG, haha Im just going to keep doing what Im doing. With or without gun, why not be considerate I don't know you i just like to point it out whenever open carry comes up how important the perception is of you and your weapon in public, A smile and a thank you sticks with people the next time someone is telling them that only bad people have guns. so I shouldn't go after the 'Dirty Harry' style? nah, I understand you |
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Now that your 18 you can register Republican and protect our gun rights, go here buddy and knock that shit out. https://servicearizona.com/webapp/evoter/?serviceclick I opt to receive and early ballot too, its really nice your ballot comes to your house so you don't actually have to go mingle with people to vote. And you have weeks to research your ballot that way too. |
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Oh I meant to say I use that same type of holster for my Gock 17 and I love it. It came with the belt loop or the paddle and I switched it to the paddle it just works better for me, I like not having to run my belt through it every time I want to take it on or off. |
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Now that your 18 you can register Republican and protect our gun rights, go here buddy and knock that shit out. https://servicearizona.com/webapp/evoter/?serviceclick I opt to receive and early ballot too, its really nice your ballot comes to your house so you don't actually have to go mingle with people to vote. And you have weeks to research your ballot that way too. haha yea, though I am pretty in the middle.. Huge gun fanatic though so no worries! I have been voting for a couple years haha, just under the identity of my sibling -helping the world, trust me. |
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I would check into Serpa before getting one. I've heard/seen videos online that there was some issue where for no apparent reason They would lock up and you would not be able to get your gun out (probably just a rumor though). I don't know the whole story but just make sure they're duty fit before getting one. Also I'm not a big fan of essentially pushing a button where the trigger is to get the holster out. Under stress I can see issues. But YMMV I'm no expert. |
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Expect to hear smart ass comments while open carrying. So make sure you have thick skin and don't escalate a situation. You'll actually find that 95% of people do not even notice a pistol on your hip. I'd imagine so unfortunately. Get the usual liberal chatter asking if its necessary eh? |
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Expect to hear smart ass comments while open carrying. So make sure you have thick skin and don't escalate a situation. You'll actually find that 95% of people do not even notice a pistol on your hip. I'd imagine so unfortunately. Get the usual liberal chatter asking if its necessary eh? I like to respond with a cheerful laugh and say my police officer has the day off. ETA: Happy Birthday and like everybody else has pretty much said be sure to be EXTRA polite and have a thick skin which it sounds like you are already aware of. |
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Quoted: Expect to hear smart ass comments while open carrying. So make sure you have thick skin and don't escalate a situation. You'll actually find that 95% of people do not even notice a pistol on your hip. That's why I carry fox labs around with me all day long every day, it ways next to nothing and its really nice to have it if you need it. |
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Quoted: Plan on open carrying my 1911 every once in a while. As I understand it, as long as it is holstered it can be any where in the car? I am also wondering about holstering; could I carry IWB or would it have to be outside on my hip? and as far as ammo goes, think I can get away with saying I have a Thompson rifle that takes .45 acp? Thanks guys Sadly, that never worked for me when I was trying to buy 9mm. They don't care whether it's for a rifle or handgun, you still have to be 21. You can sometimes get lucky though and they won't check your ID. Happy Birthday!  |
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Quoted: I've seen it happen in person twice, and once the holster had to be completely disassembled to remove the gun. Not exactly the safest way to be handling a loaded pistol (1911), while jamming tools in and around the Serpa triggerguard lock...I would check into Serpa before getting one. I've heard/seen videos online that there was some issue where for no apparent reason They would lock up and you would not be able to get your gun out (probably just a rumor though). I don't know the whole story but just make sure they're duty fit before getting one. Also I'm not a big fan of essentially pushing a button where the trigger is to get the holster out. Under stress I can see issues. But YMMV I'm no expert. |
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I use a blackhawk serpa CQC duty edition with the fiber finish, mine must be an older model because its not on their website but its similar to this http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SERPA-CQC-wCarbon-Fiber-Finish,1144,1410.htm I've never had a problem with it and I've never had a better holster. I had a leather holster that was ever so slightly faster of a draw but it didn't feel half as secure as the serpa. With the serpa I can jump up and down, ride a dirtbike, work on my roof, etc and that gun isn't going anywhere. |
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Quoted: don't forget to hold the door for people and say things like please, thank you, bless you, and address people as sir or mam. The more people that see you doing this the more gun friendly our state becomes. This. I opted to not open carry and wait until I turn 21 to carry concealed (5 months away). Truth be told, 99% of the time I'm at school, or on my way too and from. It sucks. I do open carry AR15's when I'm in the desert though. |
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Go to opticsplanet.com and search for a Safariland ALS type holster for your 1911, something like this: http://www.opticsplanet.net/safariland-6377-als-belt-holster-stx-plain-black-right-hand-6377-53-411.html. If I knew how to use the editor on this site I would do a better job linking it for you. I like Safariland ALSs because they are about the same price of a Serpa but not cheap pieces of crap. Also a big fan of releasing the pistol via thumb activation. Less of a chance of an ND because your trigger finger is not automatically at the trigger guard area. |
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Quoted: Love my serpa. Never an issue nor any friends that have them. Me neither, rocked one with my 1911, my XD9 and currently with my G21sf duty gun to and from work. The older serpas (when they first came out) did have some issues, but I don't recall what it was but I havn't had any issues with mine either and I wear them on quads all the time while riding. |
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love my serpa. My leather gear holds the gun closer so is better for concealed OWB, but for open carry I prefer the serpa.
Do yourself a favor and become familiar with the appropriate statutes regarding carrying your gun. start here and work your way through... it's good to have a thorough understanding of the laws that apply to you, especially since some of them have the potential to decide whether or not you are allowed to continue to carry or own at all. |
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Great suggestion for the serpa by the way, and maybe Blackhawk does this now but:
get some sticky back 800grit sandpaper or grip tape (on skateboard decks) and put a small bit on the release lever or heat up a small nail and stipple the lever. Gives it a distinct feel from the rest of the holster mold confirming your finger placement. |
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Serpas are banned from several shooting schools, due to people shooting themselves in the legs, both with live rounds and sims. Well I say they didn't train their students well enough to know one of the 10 number one rules of gun safety and that is to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. That can happen with almost any holster if this rule isn't followed. ETA: That can happen with ANY holster. Banning the holster isn't the problem solver. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Serpas are banned from several shooting schools, due to people shooting themselves in the legs, both with live rounds and sims. Well I say they didn't train their students well enough to know one of the 10 number one rules of gun safety and that is to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. That can happen with almost any holster if this rule isn't followed. ETA: That can happen with ANY holster. Banning the holster isn't the problem solver. It's banned becasue to unlock the holster you have to push where the trigger is as you know. So under stress if you draw and your brain keeps pushing the release button, bang. Sure it's training, but why start having to train around it. As to your ETA, it happens more with Serpa due to the unlocking mechanism. |
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Serpas are banned from several shooting schools, due to people shooting themselves in the legs, both with live rounds and sims. Well I say they didn't train their students well enough to know one of the 10 number one rules of gun safety and that is to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. That can happen with almost any holster if this rule isn't followed. ETA: That can happen with ANY holster. Banning the holster isn't the problem solver. It's banned becasue to unlock the holster you have to push where the trigger is as you know. So under stress if you draw and your brain keeps pushing the release button, bang. Sure it's training, but why start having to train around it. As to your ETA, it happens more with Serpa due to the unlocking mechanism. You should be trained to keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire. To say why train around it is missing the point of keeping your finger off the trigger until sure of the need to stop a threat. And as I also know, the release mechanism where one needs to actually press down is actually set above the trigger in line with the side frame of the gun. You have to slide your finger down onto the trigger. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Serpas are banned from several shooting schools, due to people shooting themselves in the legs, both with live rounds and sims. Well I say they didn't train their students well enough to know one of the 10 number one rules of gun safety and that is to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. That can happen with almost any holster if this rule isn't followed. ETA: That can happen with ANY holster. Banning the holster isn't the problem solver. It's banned becasue to unlock the holster you have to push where the trigger is as you know. So under stress if you draw and your brain keeps pushing the release button, bang. Sure it's training, but why start having to train around it. As to your ETA, it happens more with Serpa due to the unlocking mechanism. You should be trained to keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire. To say why train around it is missing the point of keeping your finger off the trigger until sure of the need to stop a threat. And as I also know, the release mechanism where one needs to actually press down is actually set above the trigger in line with the side frame of the gun. You have to slide your finger down onto the trigger. That is correct, the release is directly above the trigger you would have to actually slide your finger down onto the trigger to pull it on accident. When you draw your finger should be guided directly onto the frame above the trigger in the exact position where it should be. When they designed the serpa they took all of this into consideration surprisingly enough they didn't just throw some shit together and go BAMMM A SERPA! If your doing it right it should look like this  Minus the little pudgy sausage fingers and the run through belt part of the holster, I prefer the paddle it looks like this  Its comfier, faster to put on and take off, and you don't have to tighten your belt down until you lose blood flow to insure a good draw. |
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I've seen it happen in person twice, and once the holster had to be completely disassembled to remove the gun. Not exactly the safest way to be handling a loaded pistol (1911), while jamming tools in and around the Serpa triggerguard lock...
I would check into Serpa before getting one. I've heard/seen videos online that there was some issue where for no apparent reason They would lock up and you would not be able to get your gun out (probably just a rumor though). I don't know the whole story but just make sure they're duty fit before getting one. Also I'm not a big fan of essentially pushing a button where the trigger is to get the holster out. Under stress I can see issues. But YMMV I'm no expert. Under what kind of conditions? Just walking around, or was it during a 3-gun comp? |
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Serpas are banned from several shooting schools, due to people shooting themselves in the legs, both with live rounds and sims. Well I say they didn't train their students well enough to know one of the 10 number one rules of gun safety and that is to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. That can happen with almost any holster if this rule isn't followed. ETA: That can happen with ANY holster. Banning the holster isn't the problem solver. It's banned becasue to unlock the holster you have to push where the trigger is as you know. So under stress if you draw and your brain keeps pushing the release button, bang. Sure it's training, but why start having to train around it. As to your ETA, it happens more with Serpa due to the unlocking mechanism. NO, you don't..... when I draw my 1911 from my SERPA, my index finger ends up indexed on the frame ABOVE the trigger, exactly where I have it ANYTIME my 1911 is in my hand. The same way I was trained to.... I hold the button down as I draw and when the finger is fully extended, the draw process continues and the finger is in the proper "ready" position. Easier to demonstrate then to write.... |