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7/31/2010 10:57:58 AM EDT
Can we put together a CCW FAQ and tack it? There have been a lot of questions lately and it seems as though it would make sense to just pull everything together.

ETA: While we're at it, can a person over 18 but under 21 carry concealed under the new law?
7/31/2010 1:40:24 PM EDT
[#1]




Quoted:

Can we put together a CCW FAQ and tack it? There have been a lot of questions lately and it seems as though it would make sense to just pull everything together.



ETA: While we're at it, can a person over 18 but under 21 carry concealed under the new law?




I believe you must be 21. If not, I'll be corrected.



7/31/2010 2:50:07 PM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:





Quoted:

Can we put together a CCW FAQ and tack it? There have been a lot of questions lately and it seems as though it would make sense to just pull everything together.



ETA: While we're at it, can a person over 18 but under 21 carry concealed under the new law?




I believe you must be 21. If not, I'll be corrected.





You must be 21 to CC under new law. 18 to OC like normal.



21 for Permit as usual.



 
7/31/2010 6:41:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Having just moved to AZ, I'd definitely appreciate it if someone threw one of these together.

BTW, I've only been here for two days, but I can soundly say that AZ kicks TXs ass.
7/31/2010 6:56:20 PM EDT
[#4]
If no one steps up I'd be ok for starting it.
7/31/2010 7:52:14 PM EDT
[#5]
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If no one steps up I'd be ok for starting it.


Cool. I'd do it, but I'm not much of an expert and my research skills suck. I can offer a few suggestions for questions, though:

Who can carry?
Where can we carry (vehicle, businesses, government buildings, bars, schools, churches, poling places, etc.)?
Why would I want a permit?
What can be concealed?
Must I notify a police officer if I'm carrying?

That's all I can think of for now. For the record, I've had a CCW permit for about ten years and I think I know the answers to most of these questions, but I'd like a concise resource I can point people to.
7/31/2010 9:28:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Who ever wants to make it, almost all of it is here Title 13 Chapter 31. Bar/Restaurant Carry Is here. idk were the bits about parks, hunting and that thing I can't think of is.
7/31/2010 9:38:34 PM EDT
[#7]
I was going to start typing stuff up but I remembered that almost all of the info is here-
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/arizona.pdf
Other than that link there is a little more.
–––––– The advantage of a permit is you can carry in Alcohol serving establishments (If there are no "no CCW" signs of course). And if you were involved in a shooting it might be better for your defense if you have a permit ( speculation of course), you'll also learn some deadly force laws in a class. Also you can carry in other states that recognize AZ's permit. No "instant" background checks too.
–––––––– No need to notify a LEO if you are stopped unless asked directly if you have a weapon.






You can carry MGs and NFA though not recommended by some.
If there's anything that isn't covered in the above link let me know and I'll dig up the answer.
 
7/31/2010 9:52:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Where's the bit about concealing NFA's from
7/31/2010 11:00:04 PM EDT
[#9]







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Where's the bit about concealing NFA's from




Sorry I messed up on that one. Thinking of a different state.



Here's the info for AZ if anyone cares.
"

13-3101.  Definitions






    A.  In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:






    1.  "Deadly weapon" means anything that is designed for lethal use. The term
includes a firearm.






    2.  "Deface" means to remove, alter or destroy the manufacturer's serial number.






    3.  "Explosive" means any dynamite, nitroglycerine, black powder, or other similar
explosive material, including plastic explosives. Explosive does not include ammunition
or ammunition components such as primers, percussion caps, smokeless powder, black powder
and black powder substitutes used for hand loading purposes.






    4.  "Firearm" means any loaded or unloaded handgun, pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun
or other weapon that will expel, is designed to expel or may readily be converted to
expel a projectile by the action of an explosive. Firearm does not include a firearm in
permanently inoperable condition.






    5.  "Improvised explosive device" means a device that incorporates explosives or
destructive, lethal, noxious, pyrotechnic or incendiary chemicals and that is designed to
destroy, disfigure, terrify or harass.






    6.  "Occupied structure" means any building, object, vehicle, watercraft, aircraft
or place with sides and a floor that is separately securable from any other structure
attached to it, that is used for lodging, business, transportation, recreation or storage
and in which one or more human beings either are or are likely to be present or so near
as to be in equivalent danger at the time the discharge of a firearm occurs. Occupied
structure includes any dwelling house, whether occupied, unoccupied or vacant.






    7.  "Prohibited possessor" means any person:






    (a)  Who has been found to constitute a danger to himself or to others or to be
persistently or acutely disabled or gravely disabled pursuant to court order under
section 36-540, and whose right to possess a firearm has not been restored pursuant to
section 13-925.






    (b)  Who has been convicted within or without this state of a felony or who has been
adjudicated delinquent for a felony and whose civil right to possess or carry a gun or
firearm has not been restored.






    (c)  Who is at the time of possession serving a term of imprisonment in any
correctional or detention facility.






    (d)  Who is at the time of possession serving a term of probation pursuant to a
conviction for a domestic violence offense as defined in section 13-3601 or a felony
offense, parole, community supervision, work furlough, home arrest or release on any
other basis or who is serving a term of probation or parole pursuant to the interstate
compact under title 31, chapter 3, article 4.






    (e)  Who is an undocumented alien or a nonimmigrant alien traveling with or without
documentation in this state for business or pleasure or who is studying in this state and
who maintains a foreign residence abroad. This subdivision does not apply to:






    (i)  Nonimmigrant aliens who possess a valid hunting license or permit that is
lawfully issued by a state in the United States.






    (ii)  Nonimmigrant aliens who enter the United States to participate in a
competitive target shooting event or to display firearms at a sports or hunting trade
show that is sponsored by a national, state or local firearms trade organization devoted
to the competitive use or other sporting use of firearms.






    (iii)  Certain diplomats.






    (iv)  Officials of foreign governments or distinguished foreign visitors who are
designated by the United States department of state.






    (v)  Persons who have received a waiver from the United States attorney general.






    8.  "Prohibited weapon":






    (a)  Includes the following:






    (i)  An item that is a bomb, grenade, rocket having a propellant charge of more than
four ounces or mine and that is explosive, incendiary or poison gas.






    (ii)  A device that is designed, made or adapted to muffle the report of a firearm.






    (iii)  A firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically,
without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.






    (iv)  A rifle with a barrel length of less than sixteen inches, or shotgun with a
barrel length of less than eighteen inches, or any firearm that is made from a rifle or
shotgun and that, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches.






    (v)  An instrument, including a nunchaku, that consists of two or more sticks,
clubs, bars or rods to be used as handles, connected by a rope, cord, wire or chain, in
the design of a weapon used in connection with the practice of a system of self-defense.






    (vi)  A breakable container that contains a flammable liquid with a flash point of
one hundred fifty degrees Fahrenheit or less and that has a wick or similar device
capable of being ignited.






    (vii)  A chemical or combination of chemicals, compounds or materials, including dry
ice, that is possessed or manufactured for the purpose of generating a gas to cause a
mechanical failure, rupture or bursting or an explosion or detonation of the chemical or
combination of chemicals, compounds or materials.






    (viii)  An improvised explosive device.






    (ix)  Any combination of parts or materials that is designed and intended for use in
making or converting a device into an item set forth in item (i), (vi) or (viii) of this
subdivision.






    (b)  Does not include:






    (i)  Any fireworks that are imported, distributed or used in compliance with state
laws or local ordinances.






    (ii)  Any propellant, propellant actuated devices or propellant actuated industrial
tools that are manufactured, imported or distributed for their intended purposes.






    (iii)  A device that is commercially manufactured primarily for the purpose of
illumination.






    B.  The items set forth in subsection A, paragraph 8, subdivision (a), items (i),
(ii), (iii) and (iv) of this section do not include any firearms or devices that are
registered in the national firearms registry and transfer records of the United States
treasury department or any firearm that has been classified as a curio or relic by the
United States treasury department.
"



"
and
"

13-3102.  Misconduct involving weapons;
                 defenses; classification; definitions




    A.  A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:



    1.  Carrying a deadly weapon except a pocket knife concealed on his person or within
his immediate control in or on a means of transportation:


...



"



 
8/1/2010 11:59:50 AM EDT
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"13-3102.  Misconduct involving weapons;                  defenses; classification; definitions

   A.  A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:

  1.  Carrying a deadly weapon except a pocket knife concealed on his person or within his immediate control in or on a means of transportation:


You removed all the important parts there.

1. "carrying a deadly weapon while..."
(a) "aiding a felony or violent crime" or
(b) "lying to a LEO when asked if carrying"
8/1/2010 12:18:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Can we put together a CCW FAQ and tack it? There have been a lot of questions lately and it seems as though it would make sense to just pull everything together.

ETA: While we're at it, can a person over 18 but under 21 carry concealed under the new law?


Did you try looking in the Handgun section under 'Carry Issues'?

Carry Issues

8/1/2010 12:36:23 PM EDT
[#12]





Quoted:





Quoted:





"13-3102.  Misconduct involving weapons;                  defenses; classification; definitions





   A.  A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:





  1.  Carrying a deadly weapon except a pocket knife concealed on his person or within his immediate control in or on a means of transportation:








You removed all the important parts there.





1. "carrying a deadly weapon while..."


(a) "aiding a felony or violent crime" or


(b) "lying to a LEO when asked if carrying"



I just left the relevant info to carrying NFAs. NFAs are classified as a deadly weapon and not a prohibited weapon so you can carry them if you fall under the correct circumstances outlined in 13-3102 and 13-3112.





 
8/1/2010 1:15:39 PM EDT
[#13]
ahh, didn't see what you were getting at
8/1/2010 1:22:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Can we put together a CCW FAQ and tack it? There have been a lot of questions lately and it seems as though it would make sense to just pull everything together.

ETA: While we're at it, can a person over 18 but under 21 carry concealed under the new law?


Did you try looking in the Handgun section under 'Carry Issues'?

Carry Issues



I just thought it seemed like a good idea because of all the recent posts about the Constitutional Carry Bill in the HTF lately. Guess we can mark you down for a "no."
8/1/2010 1:24:41 PM EDT
[#15]



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ahh, didn't see what you were getting at


Ya I left off the whole part where it was legal to carry at all. The way they rewrote 3102 for constitutional carry is a little backwards IMO. Stupid legal text.



 
8/1/2010 2:04:17 PM EDT
[#16]
I had read it all before SB1108 was drafted, so I guess it all still makes sense to me. Most of the changes were moved from 3112 (conceal carry) and just doesn't apply there any longer. That and 3112 is a pain in the ass to read much less find what you're looking for.
8/1/2010 3:06:48 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Having just moved to AZ, I'd definitely appreciate it if someone threw one of these together.

BTW, I've only been here for two days, but I can soundly say that AZ kicks TXs ass.

You can find it at the Phoenix Library:


8/1/2010 4:53:04 PM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Having just moved to AZ, I'd definitely appreciate it if someone threw one of these together.



BTW, I've only been here for two days, but I can soundly say that AZ kicks TXs ass.


You can find it at the Phoenix Library:





http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/126-0930094532-AGOG.jpg


Good book.  Alan is a good guy and very knowledgeable.  He's usually at the gun shows selling these and they're not terribly expensive.  If you see him, say hi and buy a copy - it's worth the $15 or whatever he charges these days.  Get on his mailing list too, he sends out updates via e-mail and lots of gun legislation news on a regular basis.



 
8/1/2010 5:32:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Can we put together a CCW FAQ and tack it? There have been a lot of questions lately and it seems as though it would make sense to just pull everything together.

ETA: While we're at it, can a person over 18 but under 21 carry concealed under the new law?


Did you try looking in the Handgun section under 'Carry Issues'?

Carry Issues



I just thought it seemed like a good idea because of all the recent posts about the Constitutional Carry Bill in the HTF lately. Guess we can mark you down for a "no."


I didn't say "no". I didn't know you were looking specifically for info for the new bill for AZ. Been in and out of consciousness for most of the day.

I just thought 'Carry issues' might be a good place to start.

8/1/2010 9:30:27 PM EDT
[#20]
Can a non resident ccw or open carry in az while visiting ?


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8/1/2010 10:06:05 PM EDT
[#21]



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Can a non resident ccw or open carry in az while visiting ?





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Absolutely you can, assuming you're not a prohibited possessor. Check the link I listed above for prohibited places.