Posted: 6/8/2010 1:31:23 PM EDT
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With fireworks being legal coming up next month, I'm kinda thinking about setting up a stand to catch the initial wave of enthusiasm. Not necessarily a full time business, but just see how it goes.
Does anyone have any idea what to do in Arizona? How do you get permits, etc? |
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Opening a sparkler stand  Bwaaa hahahahahha.... Makes me think of this ETA- I don't know anything about the legalities, but you probably could make a few bucks off all the people who are going to want to buy sparklers and snakes "just 'cause they can" |
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havent seen a list yet but I thought it was just snakes and sparklers,hope im wrong Nope, stuff like fountains, volcanoes, Piccolo petes, stuff like that. ASSUMING the counties/cities don't ban them. And with the lack of money, they will. They can only ban their USE. It would still be legal to sell them, even if they can't be used within city limits. ETA: And the law is somewhat contradictory, which is why no one knows what the hell we can have. In one sentence it says nothing that rises into the air, like bottle rockets, but in the next says mortars are OK. Also, it seems to indicate that cakes (which shoot little rockets into the air) are also legal. |
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Expanding and reminiscing a bit....
Rochester NY, the neighborhood dads drinking beer and tossing/rolling cherry bombs into the storm sewer grates from our front yards. BAM! FLASH!! And a few that were bigger than others, surmised to be the result of igniting sewer gas. Ellison Park, Italian sausage, Carling Black Label beer. Dads tossing Silver Salutes into Ellison Creek. Floating downstream...then BANG! and a 20ft geyser of water. Niagara Falls, Canada visits. Black Cat 2" firecrackers by the thousands. Tape them to the wings of balsa wood/rubber band propeller airplanes. Blowing up dads old plastic tank models, with his knowledge if not encouragement. Backyard bottle rocket wars. Fast forward some years before 9/11 in the wilds of Arizona. 'Disposing of' seized fireworks taken from tourists returning to the USA from Mexico. Large firecrackers under empty beer kegs. Launch them 40ft in the air where they were met with fullotta tracer/incendiary fire from multiple guns. BIG firecrackers. Loosely tape one to the frontside of a fresh pine 2x6. BAM!!! Cut them right in half with a 3" section reduced to toothpicks. Ahhhh...the good old days. |
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Put me down for a gross each of silver salutes, ash cans, cherry bombs and M-80s.
http://www.fireworksuperstore.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/F-095.jpg Me too please |
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Quoted: Quoted: Put me down for a gross each of silver salutes, ash cans, cherry bombs and M-80s. http://www.fireworksuperstore.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/F-095.jpg Me too please Cherry bombs were / are my favorite. Back in the 60s, when I lived in So. Cal., we would go to T.J. and bring back hundreds. It was so cool to drop them off the pier and watch them explode underwater. Let me know when you get some, or are ready to order. edit:Cherry Bomb |
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Expanding and reminiscing a bit.... Rochester NY, the neighborhood dads drinking beer and tossing/rolling cherry bombs into the storm sewer grates from our front yards. BAM! FLASH!! And a few that were bigger than others, surmised to be the result of igniting sewer gas. Ellison Park, Italian sausage, Carling Black Label beer. Dads tossing Silver Salutes into Ellison Creek. Floating downstream...then BANG! and a 20ft geyser of water. Niagara Falls, Canada visits. Black Cat 2" firecrackers by the thousands. Tape them to the wings of balsa wood/rubber band propeller airplanes. Blowing up dads old plastic tank models, with his knowledge if not encouragement. Backyard bottle rocket wars. Fast forward some years before 9/11 in the wilds of Arizona. 'Disposing of' seized fireworks taken from tourists returning to the USA from Mexico. Large firecrackers under empty beer kegs. Launch them 40ft in the air where they were met with fullotta tracer/incendiary fire from multiple guns. BIG firecrackers. Loosely tape one to the frontside of a fresh pine 2x6. BAM!!! Cut them right in half with a 3" section reduced to toothpicks. Ahhhh...the good old days. Remind me to tell you about my ill spent youth, I won't put it in print! |
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I thought the new law only allowed sparklers, not all fireworks. +1 Text of the law: 5. “PERMISSIBLE CONSUMER FIREWORKS”: (a) MEANS THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF CONSUMER FIREWORKS AS DEFINED BY THE AMERICAN PYROTECHNICS ASSOCIATION STANDARD 87-1, STANDARD FOR CONSTRUCTION AND APPROVAL FOR TRANSPORTATION OF FIREWORKS, NOVELTIES AND THEATRICAL PYROTECHNICS, DECEMBER 1, 2001 VERSION: (i) GROUND AND HAND-HELD SPARKLING DEVICES. (ii) CYLINDRICAL FOUNTAINS. (iii) CONE FOUNTAINS. (iv) ILLUMINATING TORCHES. (v) WHEELS. (vi) GROUND SPINNERS. (vii) FLITTER SPARKLERS. (viii) TOY SMOKE DEVICES. (ix) WIRE SPARKLERS OR DIPPED STICKS. (x) MULTIPLE TUBE FIREWORKS DEVICES AND PYROTECHNIC ARTICLES. (b) DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT IS DESIGNED OR INTENDED TO RISE INTO THE AIR AND EXPLODE OR TO DETONATE IN THE AIR OR TO FLY ABOVE THE GROUND, INCLUDING, FOR EXAMPLE, FIREWORK ITEMS COMMONLY KNOWN AS BOTTLE ROCKETS, SKY ROCKETS, MISSILE-TYPE ROCKETS, HELICOPTERS, TORPEDOES, ROMAN CANDLES AND JUMPING JACKS. The item in bold (x) is the one that I'm curious about. A multiple tube fireworks device is a "cake". Which is: "Cake A chain-fused firework that propels a series of aerial shell, comet or mine effects into the air from collectively attached tubes." Then (B) goes on to say you can't have it. So which is it? Also, "Pyrotechnic Articles" are, as best I can tell, firecrackers. There doesn't seem to be any specific line banning firecrackers, so I think they are OK. Also, I noticed this law doesn't take effect until November 30th. 
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The AZ law sites 2001 APA STANDARD 87-1
From page 28: * 3.5 Multiple Tube Fireworks Devices and Pyrotechnic Articles * 3.5.1 Multiple tube devices contain more than one cardboard tube. The ignition of one external fuse causes all of the tubes to function in sequence. The tubes are either individually attached to a wood or plastic base, or are dense-packed and are held together by glue, wire, string, or other means that securely holds the tubes together during operation. * 3.5.2 Multiple tube devices are normally limited to a maximum of 200 g of total pyrotechnic composition for approval as Fireworks, UN0336, 1.4G or Article, Pyrotechnic, UN0431, 1.4G under this Standard. (See 3.5.4 for exceptions.) The weight of chemical composition per tube is limited to the weight limit for the specific type of device in the tube. (See section 3.1 for the weight limits per tube, based on type of effect.) * 3.5.3 The connecting fuses on multiple tube devices must be fused in sequence so that the tubes fire sequentially rather than all at once. * 3.5.4 When the tubes are securely attached to a wood or plastic base, and the tubes are separated from each other on the base by a distance of at least 0.50 inch (12.7 mm), a maximum total weight of 500 g of pyrotechnic composition shall be permitted for approval as 1.4G. |
