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AR15.COM
4/8/2008 5:00:29 PM EDT
I'm sure I'll get the "posted in the GD 100 times" reply, but its new to me.  Wow.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
4/8/2008 6:49:25 PM EDT
[#1]
WOW is right. How soon we forget. We must never forget or surrender our rights as U.S. citizens.
4/8/2008 8:27:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Man, that crap pisses me off.  I almost wish I didn't watch that!
4/10/2008 3:36:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Makes me fucking sick!
4/10/2008 4:06:55 PM EDT
[#4]
And it will only get worse in the future, contrary to popular belief your LEO is not allways there to serve and protect. they were probably "JUST FOLLING ORDERS"  
4/11/2008 12:19:31 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
And it will only get worse in the future, contrary to popular belief your LEO is not allways there to serve and protect. they were probably "JUST FOLLING ORDERS"  



Not all of us follow blindly, trust me
4/11/2008 7:37:47 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
And it will only get worse in the future, contrary to popular belief your LEO is not allways there to serve and protect. they were probably "JUST FOLLING ORDERS"  


And contrary to "arfcom" belief... Not all LEO's have a fond appreciation for gun ownership. Im not saying they dont believe in it, they probably just dont care.
4/12/2008 10:44:29 AM EDT
[#7]
There is plenty more footage out there as well:

Gun Grabbers in New Orleans

Assholes pointing rifles at doors doing a "welfare check"? GRRRR

Listen carefully about 1:55 in where a guardsman says he will shoot american citizens...


Lem
4/13/2008 9:29:04 AM EDT
[#8]
Don't LEOs swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States?
This creates problems on their part of "following orders" and keeping oath.
4/20/2008 8:51:06 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Don't LEOs swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States?
This creates problems on their part of "following orders" and keeping oath.


Well, their excuse is when Martial Law is declared, the Constitution is NULL and VOID.  

I don't know whether Martial Law was ever declared in New Orleans or state of LA.  But I brought up the same issue of upholding the Constitution (LEO and National Guard / MIL) and that was the response I received ... unfuking-believable ....

4/20/2008 10:18:06 PM EDT
[#10]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law
4/21/2008 12:07:16 AM EDT
[#11]

From Wiki:

Hurricane Katrina
Contrary to many media reports at the time, martial law was not declared in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, because no such term exists in Louisiana state law. However, a State of Emergency was declared, which does give unique powers to the state government similar to those of martial law. On the evening of August 31, 2005, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin nominally declared "martial law" and said that officers don't have to worry about civil rights and Miranda rights in stopping the looters. [9] Federal troops were a common sight in New Orleans after Katrina. At one point, as many as 15,000 federal troops and National Guardsmen patrolled the city. Additionally it has been reported that armed contractors from Blackwater USA assisted in policing the city.[10]

See also "What Is Martial Law? And is New Orleans under it?" by the Slate Explainer.

[edit] See also


Thnx for the link tucan.  Seems they want to interpret and define law as they see fit -When does a homeowner defending his/her property using weapon, "a looter" ... that criminal mayor needs to be punish for disarming the citizen in THEIR home and all the officers and military personnel also, for following illegal / unconstitutional order ... but that will never happen b/c they are above the law.
4/21/2008 12:12:10 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Not all of us follow blindly, trust me


But when the economic pressure and threat of losing their job to support their own family, their own ass, etc.... many LEO/MIL  will FOLLOW those orders  

So key thing here is for those of you in LEO / MIL to be financially stable to NOT be in that catch-22 when that situation arrives.
4/21/2008 3:38:19 AM EDT
[#13]
yes, all cops are jack booted thugs.  May they all die a horrible death!  we don't need cops, everyone should just take care of themselves.  Those military people are assholes too!  fuck the military gun grabbers too!!!
4/21/2008 8:09:37 AM EDT
[#14]

Shirley you jest `FROST......you're not that wacked......are you?




Bear
4/21/2008 11:25:26 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
yes, all cops are jack booted thugs.  May they all die a horrible death!  we don't need cops, everyone should just take care of themselves.  Those military people are assholes too!  fuck the military gun grabbers too!!!



  You sure about that?
4/21/2008 3:20:26 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
yes, all cops are jack booted thugs.  May they all die a horrible death!  we don't need cops, everyone should just take care of themselves.  Those military people are assholes too!  fuck the military gun grabbers too!!!



  You sure about that?


He's being sarcastic...duh...


4/23/2008 8:05:23 PM EDT
[#17]
What would you guys have done had you been in that situation?  I don't know that I would have been in the city at that point.  If I was a resident who decided to stay there, I shutter to think of what I would be forced to do to protect my family.

Would you guys have just handed over the guns and kick at the dirt saying there was nothing you could do?
4/23/2008 8:47:23 PM EDT
[#18]
One gun is none. Two guns is one.

Plan accordingly.
4/24/2008 8:47:43 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Would you guys have just handed over the guns and kick at the dirt saying there was nothing you could do?


Yes, most of us would, because we were raised to obey/respect the law