Posted: 3/23/2005 7:14:26 AM EDT
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A quick update on HB2325. The bill was heard in the AZ Senate Judiciary committee on 3/21. To make a long story short, it was amended by Sen. John Huppenthal in committee to do away with the lifetime provisions, changing it to be a five-year renewal term instead. This will preserve the NICS waiver status of the AZ permit, so we won’t lose the Brady check exemption when buying a gun. I know this was important to some folks, and not to others, so take it for whatever its worth to you. Huppenthal’s amendment also restored the four-hour refresher training course requirement upon renewal. He also tried to restore the lengthy training requirement for the original course, changing it to fourteen hours from the original sixteen. Basically, his amendment gutted the bill altogether, pretty much putting the language of the statute back to where it was originally. But Sen. Jack Harper had an amendment to his amendment waiting, cutting the original course requirement back to eight hours, as Rep. Gray’s bill intended. After debate, Harper’s amendment was adopted, and eight hours it is. The bill now moves to Rules, and then to the floor. There is a chance that there will be further amendments there, during the Committee of the Whole debate, so stay tuned, and be sure to keep in contact with your Senators. You can find a list of them here … www.azleg.state.az.us/MemberRoster.asp?Body=S As always, thanks to all for your support and assistance. |
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For those interested, HB2325 is set for a hearing in the Senate Rules Committee on Monday, 3/28. The members of the committee are ... Sen. Bill Brotherton, [email protected], 602-926-4485 Sen. Ken Bennett, [email protected], 602-926-5584 Sen. Jorge Luis Garcia, [email protected], 602-926-4171 Sen. Robert Blendu, Chairman, [email protected], 602-926-5955 Sen. Tim Bee, Vice-Chairman, [email protected], 602-926-5683 Please contact them and politely ask them to vote "Yes" when the bill comes up for a vote. |
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For those interested, HB2325, which is now a bill to extend the CCW permit term to five years and shorten the initial training course requirement to eight hours, passed out of the AZ Senate Rules committee yesterday. The next stop is the Committee of the Whole, where it will be subject to further amendments. It has not been put on the COW calendar as of yet, but it won’t be long now. Please contact your Senators and politely ask them to support the bill without any damaging amendments. You can find the list of Senate contacts here … AZ Senate Members Thanks for all of your help and support. |
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Further news ... HB2325 will be heard in the AZ Senate Committee of the Whole today, where it will be subject to further amendments. Sorry for the late notice, but I’ve been tied up with family stuff for the last few days, and just caught the notice this morning. Please contact your Senators and politely ask them to support the bill without any damaging amendments. You can find the list of Senate contacts here … AZ Senate Members Thanks again for all of your help and support. |
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HB2325 is back on the AZ Senate Committee of the Whole calendar for today, 4/13/05, after being retained the last time it was scheduled. It will be subject to further amendments, and I have it on good authority that the bill’s sponsor may attempt to have the bill amended favorably. Please contact your Senators and politely ask them to support the bill without any damaging amendments. You can find the list of Senate contacts here … AZ Senate Members Thanks again for all of your help and support. |
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HB2325 passed the Senate Third Read yesterday by a vote of 28-1-1. You can find the vote detail here … HB2325 Senate Third Read Vote Detail It now goes back to the House for a concurrence vote or a conference committee, as the bill was amended in the Senate. Some of those amendments, which were adopted during the floor debate, shortened the renewal course to two hours, changed the renewal fingerprint requirements to the first renewal only, allow a defense to prosecution for not carrying a permit if the person can present a valid permit to the court, and allow for service members serving overseas to extend their renewal dates until 90 days after their return home. You can find the exact language of the adopted floor amendment here … HB2325 Adopted Floor Amendment I will keep you posted as to any further progress. It should hopefully be a smooth passage in the House, but if any difficulties pop up, I’ll let you know. As always, thanks for your support. |
It will have no effect on reciprocity whatsoever that we are aware of. Why would it? The vast majority of shall-issue states have far lower requirements for permit issuance than AZ. The only exceptions to that would be TX and NM. My suggestion to both of those states would be to get busy in their legislatures as well. Freedom has a price. One must be willing to work for it. |
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HB2325 is on the House Final Reading calendar for today, April 19, 2005. It should pass easily, but feel free to contact your Representatives anyway and ask them for their support. You can find a list of them here … AZ House Members The bill now makes the following changes to the CCW laws … - Permit term raised to 5 years - Military types serving overseas get a 90-day extension on the renewal term - If you are charged for not having your permit on you, the charges will be dropped if you can show your valid permit in court. - Initial training requirement dropped to 8 hours. - Renewal training requirement dropped to 2 hours. - Fingerprints are only required for the initial permit and first renewal. After this, it moves on to the Governor for her signature or veto. We need to start contacting her and letting her know that we want a signature on this one. Contact info is as follows … The Honorable Janet Napolitano Governor of Arizona 1700 West Washington Phoenix, AZ 85007 Phone: 602-542-4331 Fax: 602-542-1381 Governor's Feedback Web Page As always, thanks to all for your support and assistance. |
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HB2325 passed the House Final Read by a vote of 40-20, and was sent to the Governor on Wednesday, April 20. We need to get on her case to sign this bill, which passed the legislature with a veto proof majority. Contact info is above, and I have obtained a tool-free number for those outside of the Phoenix metro area, that is … 1-800-253-0883 Let’s get on it folks! As always, thanks to all for your support and assistance. |
Well no, not exactly. The Governor still has to either sign it or let it pass without a signature. She can still veto it if she so desires, but doing so with the vote margins it garnered is very risky for her. Especially if she vetoes the Restaurant Carry bill. With the Budget veto looming over her, and the likelihood of a special session in her future, does she really want to risk the possibility of an override vote on this bill, and the embarrasment that goes with that? Its a slim possibility, to be sure, but still a possibiliy, and one I'm sure she'd rather avoid. Given the broad support for this bill, she'd be a fool not to at least let it pass unsigned. And Janet is no fool. Assuming that she signs it or lets it pass, it will take effect 90 days after that event. I believe she has until next Wednesday (4/27) to make up her mind. That would mean that it should take effect sometime around the beginning of August. Given that DPS will have to come up with new course guidelines, regs, etc., you may even see some delays beyond that, but hopefully not much. HTH. |
I really hope she signs it. As for delays, I turn 21 in December so I should probably be in the clear (I hope) |
Since laws are not generally retroactive unless they specifically say so (and even then its touchy, and frequently challengable in court), your permit will expire when it says so, and on renewal, will be valid for five years. Your renewal class will only be two hours long though. All of this is, of course, assuming that the bill is signed by the Governor. Calling, faxing, or writing her will help that along ... (hint ... hint)  |
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HB2325 was signed by the Governor today, about the same time she vetoed the Restaurant Carry bill. So we got a little good with the bad. You can feel free to call her and thank her if you’d like, it might help to sweeten the pot after you chew her out for her veto … The Honorable Janet Napolitano Governor of Arizona 1700 West Washington Phoenix, AZ 85007 Phone: 602-542-4331 Fax: 602-542-1381 Toll-Free: 1-800-253-0883 Governor's Feedback Web Page It would also be a good thing to contact the bill’s sponsor, Rep. Chuck Gray, and thank him for his support. You can reach him as follows … Rep. Chuck Gray, [email protected], Phone: 602-926-5495, Fax: 602-417-3019 Thanks to all who helped on this one. It was a tough fight, but we got it through, and we even managed to do it without too many changes. Overall, I think worked out well. |
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This is really good news for us CCW Instructors. 16 hours was a bitch to try to fill. Especially when one of your students is a former Green Beret Weapons Specialist or a cop with less than 10 years active.. Anyway, looks like we'll have full schedules now..woot! |
I look forward to those lower rates too. 
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bwahahahahahahahaha.. You're kidding, right? bwahahahahahahaha OK..For you, $5 off |
Guess I'll have to brush up on my reading skills.