Posted: 7/9/2013 8:10:29 PM EDT
| Now that the bill is law has anyone tested the waters with the loaded mag and rifle combo in the vehicle? Ive read it and as I understand it I can now carry a AR and loaded mags in the same case as long as I have a CCW, with no CCW the mags cant be with the rifle, is this correct? I remember reading something about 18" barrel. Does my AR have to have an 18" barrel for there to be no legal issues? I plan on doing some traveling to visit family and intended on taking an rifle with me. Just wanted to clarify the do's and don'ts. |
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Heres what ive found...Red section is what im wanting to clarify..I think the 18" barrel deal is if its in plain sight
(a) "Unloaded" means , with respect to a firearm other than a firearm described in division (K)(6) of this section, that no ammunition is in the firearm in question, no magazine or speed loader containing ammunition is inserted into the firearm in question , and one of the following applies: (i) There is no ammunition in a magazine or speed loader that is in the vehicle in question and that may be used with the firearm in question. (ii) Any magazine or speed loader that contains ammunition and that may be used with the firearm in question is stored in a compartment within the vehicle in question that cannot be accessed without leaving the vehicle or is stored in a container that provides complete and separate enclosure. (b) For the purposes of division (K)(5)(a)(ii) of this section, a "container that provides complete and separate enclosure" includes, but is not limited to, any of the following: (i) A package, box, or case with multiple compartments, as long as the loaded magazine or speed loader and the firearm in question either are in separate compartments within the package, box, or case, or, if they are in the same compartment, the magazine or speed loader is contained within a separate enclosure in that compartment that does not contain the firearm and that closes using a snap, button, buckle, zipper, hook and loop closing mechanism, or other fastener that must be opened to access the contents or the firearm is contained within a separate enclosure of that nature in that compartment that does not contain the magazine or speed loader; (ii) A pocket or other enclosure on the person of the person in question that closes using a snap, button, buckle, zipper, hook and loop closing mechanism, or other fastener that must be opened to access the contents. (c) For the purposes of divisions (K)(5)(a) and (b) of this section, ammunition held in stripper-clips or in en-bloc clips is not considered ammunition that is loaded into a magazine or speed loader. (6) "Unloaded" means, with respect to a firearm employing a percussion cap, flintlock, or other obsolete ignition system, when the weapon is uncapped or when the priming charge is removed from the pan. (7) "Commercial motor vehicle" has the same meaning as in division (A) of section 4506.25 of the Revised Code. (8) "Motor carrier enforcement unit" means the motor carrier enforcement unit in the department of public safety, division of state highway patrol, that is created by section 5503.34 of the Revised Code. (L) Divisions (K)(5)(a) and (b) of this section do not affect the authority of a person who is carrying a valid concealed handgun license to have one or more magazines or speed loaders containing ammunition anywhere in a vehicle, without being transported as described in those divisions, as long as no ammunition is in a firearm, other than a handgun, in the vehicle other than as permitted under any other provision of this chapter. A person who is carrying a valid concealed handgun license may have one or more magazines or speed loaders containing ammunition anywhere in a vehicle without further restriction, as long as no ammunition is in a firearm, other than a handgun, in the vehicle other than as permitted under any provision of this chapter. |
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I'm not sure what "testing the waters" means here. Do you mean posting a sign on your vehicle reading "Loaded magazines in vehicle?" How would anyone know otherwise? -- Chuck More or less im just curios if anyone has had a run in with LEO while carrying loaded rifle mags since the law has taken effect. |
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http://www.buckeyefirearms.org//publicfiles/pdf/HB495_Whitepaper.pdf
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Loaded ammunition magazines are now permitted in vehicles The biggest change is transportation of firearms in a vehicle. This is honestly a headache for people who are unfamiliar with firearms. The definition of “unloaded” is amended in R.C. 2923.16(K)(5) and (6). New law allows anyone to have a loaded magazine or speed loader in the vehicle. THERE IS A TWO TIER approach to this. For someone who does not have a CHL, that person may have loaded magazines or speed loaders in the vehicle so long as: 1.The magazine or speed loader does not fit any firearm being transported in the vehicle; or 2.The magazine or speed loader is in a compartment reachable only by leaving the vehicle; or 3.The magazine or speed loader is in a closed package, box or case that has multiple compartments (i.e. a gun case) as long as the magazine or speed loader is in a separate compartment in the closed package, box or case from the firearm, OR, if the closed package, box or case only has one compartment, the magazine or firearm is separately enclosed in something using a snap, buckle, zipper, button, hook and loop etc. (My best stab at this is it is a one compartment gun case, the gun or the magazine/speed loader would need to be in some sort of pouch that is closed.); or 4.The magazine or speed loader is on the person of the occupant in a pocket that is closed using a snap, buckle, zipper, button or hook and loop. For someone with a CHL, they may have a loaded magazine in the vehicle anyway they wish, so long as any magazine for a non-handgun is not inserted into the non-handgun. (i.e. a loaded rifle magazine may be anywhere in the vehicle as long as it isn’t inserted into the rifle |