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7/5/2013 3:17:01 PM EDT
In light of this thread over in GD GD DUI Checkpoint Topic

What are the rules for Checkpoints here in OHIO?

I found the below link for the policies and procedures of DUI Checkpoints, but I cannot find anything in the ORC for what a person must submit/adhere to once they enter a checkpoint.

OH Policies/Procedures for DUI Checkpoints

Is cracking your window a few inches sufficient enough or do you have to have it all the way down?

Thanks to GW and his "Patriot" Act, OH is one of 24 states that require both driver and passengers to give Name and Address when questioned by any LEO. But is anything else required when in a Checkpoint?

http://youtu.be/w-WMn_zHCVo
7/5/2013 5:16:01 PM EDT
[#1]
How dare you question the police. Dont you know that their "safety" is far more important to your rights? Being police is the 14th most dangerous job after all. Statically behind garbage men, roofers, loggers, construction workers etc. They just want to make sure they make it home at night.
 



ETA: According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, loggers are the most likely to be killed on the job. Even farmers are twice as likely as cops to experience a work-related death.

Police rank 14th in danger, between heavy equipment operators and electricians.


When it comes to death from homicide, taxi drivers and chauffeurs are at greatest risk—more than four times likelier than cops to be murdered.

7/6/2013 5:01:30 AM EDT
[#2]
They can tell you to step out of the car if you try the cracked open window... which will make them more suspicious in the first place.

7/6/2013 5:03:11 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
How dare you question the police. Dont you know that their "safety" is far more important to your rights? Being police is the 14th most dangerous job after all. Statically behind garbage men, roofers, loggers, construction workers etc. They just want to make sure they make it home at night.  

ETA: According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, loggers are the most likely to be killed on the job. Even farmers are twice as likely as cops to experience a work-related death.
Police rank 14th in danger, between heavy equipment operators and electricians.

When it comes to death from homicide, taxi drivers and chauffeurs are at greatest risk—more than four times likelier than cops to be murdered.



You know the OP actually asked questions, right?  You didn't come close to the topic at hand.
7/6/2013 1:25:40 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm not a cop, but when I was military and had to check IDs at the base entrance rolling down you window guaranteed you to be sent to the side of the road for a random car search.

edit: I meant rolling it down just far enough to slide your ID out the window.
7/6/2013 2:46:14 PM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:



Quoted:

How dare you question the police. Dont you know that their "safety" is far more important to your rights? Being police is the 14th most dangerous job after all. Statically behind garbage men, roofers, loggers, construction workers etc. They just want to make sure they make it home at night.  



ETA: According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, loggers are the most likely to be killed on the job. Even farmers are twice as likely as cops to experience a work-related death.

Police rank 14th in danger, between heavy equipment operators and electricians.




When it comes to death from homicide, taxi drivers and chauffeurs are at greatest risk—more than four times likelier than cops to be murdered.







You know the OP actually asked questions, right?  You didn't come close to the topic at hand.


sigh Youre right AJE.

 



I had a few in me from the holiday and the video kinda struck a nerve with me. Apologies to the OP and anyone else.
7/6/2013 9:11:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
They can tell you to step out of the car if you try the cracked open window... which will make them more suspicious in the first place.



What if I clean my gun with beer so it smells like alcohol?


What now?






7/6/2013 9:46:39 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
They can tell you to step out of the car if you try the cracked open window... which will make them more suspicious in the first place.



What if I clean my gun with beer so it smells like alcohol?


What now?






Probably not a good idea
7/6/2013 10:23:03 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
They can tell you to step out of the car if you try the cracked open window... which will make them more suspicious in the first place.



What if I clean my gun with beer so it smells like alcohol?


What now?






Probably not a good idea


Never said I was going to shoot it like that.
7/7/2013 4:43:46 AM EDT
[#9]
I can't imagine it would provide sufficient lubrication or corrosion resistance.
7/7/2013 7:22:31 AM EDT
[#10]
In talking to a member of the family that is a police officer, he tells me that he encounters the type of response that the gentleman in TN had on the regular at OVI checkpoints.  He said when someone does not want to talk to him or hand over their ID (at the checkpoint) he will do his best to look for signs of impairment by engaging them in conversation for a while, if no signs are present, he kicks them loose.

What these officers in TN did is not only illegal, but it gives good officers a bad name from coast to coast. Some people want to be the police for reasons other than the majority. My cousin calls this the "Gun-Badge-God" attitude.
7/8/2013 6:52:02 AM EDT
[#11]
OVI checpoints are blatant violations of the search and seizure protections of the fourth ammendment.  There is no moral or ethical reason for cops to detain someone who has not provided reasonable suspicion for the officer to believe that person violated a law.  Unfortunately, due to poor decisions by judges, there are legal reasons to do it.  Hopefully those decisions will be overturned.
7/8/2013 7:29:11 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
OVI checpoints are blatant violations of the search and seizure protections of the fourth ammendment.  There is no moral or ethical reason for cops to detain someone who has not provided reasonable suspicion for the officer to believe that person violated a law.  Unfortunately, due to poor decisions by judges, there are legal reasons to do it.  Hopefully those decisions will be overturned.


Just a reminder how important it is to have wise judges.  Many people underestimate the importance of electing wise judges, as well as electing leaders who nominate judges.
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