Posted: 2/12/2009 9:43:10 AM EDT
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I am an OPOTA certified instructor, thanks to my department. I have a couple of friends who want to get their CCW permits. They are good guys and we shoot together often. In othe words the class is just a formality. I still want to do everything by the book. What exactly do I need to teach them? Should I just follow the "model" lesson plan that is on the Attorney General's website?
I am not looking to go into business doing this. Just doing a few friends a favor. They are paying me in food and beers (after class, of course) Thanks. |
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you got to be kidding.
OPATA eh? and you are asking on here. that's why we have so many people that ask questions like, "what about places without signs" or "can i carry in the local applebees, if i don't drink" good luck, favor or not, they get the wrong info and do something stupid its on you. |
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Not trying to start anything and I agree on som of the questions we get here but at least they are asking questions first and not just acting foolishly. Just to inform you I am certified by OPOTA to conduct qualifications for my department. That is about all you learn from the state mandated classes - how to requalify officers.. That's why I have been to quite a few other training classes that are not put on by the state.
Now combine that training with a week long Instructor class and in their eyes I can even teach at an academy. Some instructors think that this makes them all knowing on any given subject. I don't. I was just trying to make sure I cover my ass when I teach the class. That's why I was asking about the attorney general's "model" lesson. I figure if I follow their advice it would at least help me liability-wise. Just looking for additional advice in a teaching area that is new to me, that's all. |
| I think you also have to have some sort or NRA instructor qualification to teach the NRA basic pistol part. Plus the cleass that I took was only a few dollars more than the cost of the state student packet (that I'm pretty sure the instructor has to get for the student). So they wouldn't be saving much anyway. |
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Correct, see ORC 2923.125 Application and licensing process. –– Mike Thanks for pointing this section out. After reading it I don't know if I really want to go through with it. The first 2 sections I can work with, but It appears I would have to have some type of company or llc set up. That is what section (iii) says. Oh well. I wonder what qualifies as a "firearms traininf school?" Time to make some phone calls to somebody who might know. From ORC 2923.125 b) An original or photocopy of a certificate of completion of a firearms safety, training, or requalification or firearms safety instructor course, class, or program that satisfies all of the following criteria: (i) It was open to members of the general public. (ii) It utilized qualified instructors who were certified by the national rifle association, the executive director of the Ohio peace officer training commission pursuant to section 109.75 or 109.78 of the Revised Code, or a governmental official or entity of another state. (iii) It was offered by or under the auspices of a law enforcement agency of this or another state or the United States, a public or private college, university, or other similar postsecondary educational institution located in this or another state, a firearms training school located in this or another state, or another type of public or private entity or organization located in this or another state. |
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Is your "training" going to be open to the public? –– Mike Does it have to be? If it doesn't then no. I am just trying to save my friends some cash. my class was 100.00. it included, lunch, dinner, and ammo 
nice of you to spare them the burden of paying out the big bucks 
have them take the class from someone doing them to help feed their family, and everyone wins. |