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1/21/2009 1:36:17 PM EDT
Hey,  what is needed in Ohio to teach CCW courses and give students the required certification?

Thanks
1/21/2009 2:16:11 PM EDT
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Hey,  what is needed in Ohio to teach CCW courses and give students the required certification?

Thanks


Really you are asking us ???? I would contact the Attorney Gen for that one we will just get you lost on the turnpike
1/21/2009 3:39:37 PM EDT
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Hey,  what is needed in Ohio to teach CCW courses and give students the required certification?

Thanks


NRA basic pistol
OPADA

1/21/2009 6:13:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Everything is explained here:

http://www.nrahq.org/education/Training/instructor.asp

Any other questions feel free to pm me.
1/21/2009 7:23:34 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes, but do you need to be an NRA instructor to offer this course?

Are there exceptions.  ?
1/22/2009 5:01:18 AM EDT
[#5]
No, you don't have to be an NRA Certified Instructor.

If you're a certified Ohio Peace Officer Training Academy instructor, that works too.
1/22/2009 11:40:47 AM EDT
[#6]
Check here for your answer.  It appears that there are some exceptions:

Attorney General Publication

Or you can just hire me.
1/22/2009 12:13:07 PM EDT
[#7]
Or me!
1/22/2009 12:45:18 PM EDT
[#8]
HEY, HEY, HEEEY,,,,,,,,,,,,


I'm just trying to get a CPL, CCW, or what ever it is called.  I can easily teach myself as I've been teaching military, law enforcement, private security and civies for over 20 years,,   I am just trying to avoid 10 hours in a lecture and 2 hours on a range

Hey, what can I say,,  I have better things to do, but I may have to  
1/22/2009 1:03:39 PM EDT
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HEY, HEY, HEEEY,,,,,,,,,,,,


I'm just trying to get a CPL, CCW, or what ever it is called.  I can easily teach myself as I've been teaching military, law enforcement, private security and civies for over 20 years,,   I am just trying to avoid 10 hours in a lecture and 2 hours on a range

Hey, what can I say,,  I have better things to do, but I may have to  


welcome to Ohio.  

1/22/2009 1:44:53 PM EDT
[#10]
better than New York,,  like I mentioned before, I moved from Michigan to New York, took just over a year to get my pistol permit.  In this fuc&ed up state, you can't even touch a handgun with out the permit (but you can buy rifles and shotguns  )

Then, when you get your permit, it allows you to carry WITH ABSOLUTELY NO TRAINING REQUIRED,  no tests, nada,,   and it never expires  

Yeah, makes alot of since doesn't it?   SO,,  what you have is a bunch of mall ninjas carrying pistols with no idea which end the bullet comes out,  and alot of MALE EGO,
1/24/2009 9:17:21 AM EDT
[#11]
Welcome to Ohio.

There is no shortcut to the training certificate signed with a NRA instructor number or OPOTA number (other than a military ID card or recent DD214).  Gotta be specified as 12 hours of which at least 2 is on the range and includes a passed written examination.  My secretary took this course with my P228 a couple of years ago and scored 100 on the exam.  She'd never fired a pistol in her life.  The training has to be within a couple of years.  All in the AG's pamphlet which you're required to certify you've read.

Bring a gallon of coffee if you take NRA Basic Pistol padded out to 12 hours!  I did this with some buddies when the CHL was first authorized (and unsure if the sheriff would accept my military ID –– he did.)  

The amount of bad information presented was amazing (Glazer safety slugs and other nonsense), but who cares?  It's a ticket punch, nothing more.

If you teach this course try to at least keep the students awake!  ;)

–– Chuck
1/24/2009 8:30:10 PM EDT
[#12]
hi Chuck,, and thanks,,  maybe I'll just bring some diet pepsi MAX (Twice the caffine    )  and have some fun.  

I won't teach it because the NRA basic is,  well,  just that,, basic.   I would rather continue teaching what I've been, and that is how to fight with the pistol (shotgun and rifle also), and let the basics be taught by others.  There is a BIG difference.

SO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  with that said, in about two weeks I will be looking for a instructor who won't bore me too much,,  and as a good intructor, we are all students first.

ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW OF ONE??  

1/25/2009 7:06:52 AM EDT
[#13]
We sat thru a marathon of 10 hours of NRA Basic Pistol on Saturday and two hours on the range on Sunday.

The range portion was well run as the instructors asked us to sign up for one of several 2-hour blocks depending on our own inflated ideas of our skills.  We "high skills" folks didn't need a whole lot of individual attention but they worked diligently with the complete new shooters.  

Any qualification with specified hours –– rather than proficiency –– is completely bogus, but that's the Ohio Law.  The Red Cross still insists on a stupidfying all day course for CPR and first aid when most folks could be out in less than an hour with a demonstration of the required skills.  Skills don't matter, ya need the hours.

Ohio law is written so ANY course that meets the 10 + 2 hours is good, but only if the instructor has a NRA or OPOTA "number."  Not even a week at Gunsite counts unless one of those numbers is on the certificate!  

–– Chuck
1/25/2009 7:31:57 AM EDT
[#14]
Ron,
You should think of teaching it, i'm sure that there would be alot of Solon-ites that would take it.
1/25/2009 8:14:35 AM EDT
[#15]
Hi Danno man,,

I might consider it,  but my 'BASIC' course includes moving targets, multiple targets, shoothouse, two man tactics, everything is from the holster and the end of the course if force on force.  I teach the students to fight with weapons, not punch paper.  Most of the NRA style courses are ok, but they don't train for the streets.  All the targets I use are colored and they represent real people, real people holding babies, cell phones, hidden guns, etc.

A number of years ago I went through the NRA instructor course, and when I was told that I had to teach the NRA way,,  I see the training as dangerous because it teaches how to punch holes,,  and does nothing about real world threats,,  so I converted back to contractor type training.  

Once I move I may re-consider  


1/25/2009 11:00:40 AM EDT
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well my thought is get them in to get the required CCW training, then they will see the other classes that you have to offer and take other classes
1/25/2009 12:22:19 PM EDT
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well my thought is get them in to get the required CCW training, then they will see the other classes that you have to offer and take other classes



You are the man,,           I like it..