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4/28/2005 3:50:24 PM EDT
www.odcmp.com/NM/SAFS.htm

Anybody ever been?  Any tips....what can I expect?     I just registered for both the pistol and the rifle schools.  Looks like a great bargain on some training.  

In a nutshell......for $30, you get the loan of a M9 or a M16, ammo, instruction from "top military marksmanship unit shooters " over a 2 day time.

You can stay at Camp Perry for as little as $11 a night.

www.cpmr-oh.org/mainpages/NM2005_Lodging_Procedures.htm


Edited to add:   Attending either of these schools counts towards qualifying to buy Garands and 03s from the CMP which has a store located at Camp Perry.
4/28/2005 8:49:42 PM EDT
[#1]
I did both the Rifle SAFS and the DCM two or three times years ago and had a blast. As you stated, they supply the guns and ammo as well as a coach to give needed shooting tips and ensure all safety rules are followed. If I remember right, they give you a list of supplies you should have like ear plugs, shooting glasses, jacket, glove for supporting hand, shooting mat, spotting scope, food and drink, etc. Some shooters use a shooting jacket, glove, sight black, spray to make rifle sticky also but I just used the basics.

I think all rifle firing is done from the 200 yard line now (used to shoot from 200, 300 and 600 yd line) with reduced targets for the extended range parts. I've never shot the pistol SAFS but if I remember right, all shooting is done target style and one handed. I think you'll enjoy it.
4/29/2005 8:22:47 PM EDT
[#2]
I've attended Rifle SAFS twice, and it was a blast.  They supply M16's and the ammo.  When I was there both times, we were shooting from the 200 and 300 yard lines.  Prior to attending, the vast majority of my rifle shooting was at 100 yards.  Now, I actually prefer to shoot at much longer distances.

Day one consists of several hours of briefings by the US Army Marksmanship Unit regarding safety, operation of the M16 rifle, and the technical aspects of marksmanship.  The briefings take place in the auditorium on base at Camp Perry, and both times I was there the place was packed.  A word of advice here: don't drink too much coffee before the briefings, as the bathrooms are small and the lines into them are VERY long at the break times.he
On both days, your time will be divied up between working the target pits and the actual shooting.  Take a pair of sunglasses with you, and a boonie hat.  Also, wear grungy clothing (I wore BDUs), as the targets are set up on a rail/chain system that is covered in thick grease.  Not to mention the possibility of rain, mud, etc.  Also, wear your ear plugs when you are in the pits; the sound of rounds impacting the targets is NOT gentle on the ears.  Upon completion of the course, you will receive a certificate of completion, along with a gift.  My first year, they handed out t-shirts.  My second year, they handed out instructional manuals, which are quite excellent.  

I rented out a bed in the barracks for both nights, each time I attended.  They are a tremendous improvement over the huts that are located throughout the base.  Camp Perry used to be a POW camp for German soliders during WWII, and they were housed in these huts.  A friend of mine, who tagged along with me one year, jokingly referred to them as "kraut houses."

Dealer's Row is a lot of fun.  Bring LOTS of cash.  The CMP store is also cool.  I would avoid eating at the cafeteria on base, as the food is just "okay" and rather expensive, and the lines are long.  Definitely bring your cooler, and pack it with food.  Oh yeah, you will also be allowed to bring booze into the barracks.   I can think of no finer way to conclude a day of shooting than to shoot the bull with other fellow marksmen, while chugging down a few cold ones.

If you are looking for entertainment during the off hours, I would highly recommend getting on the Jet Express boat from Port Clinton to Put In Bay.  While you're there, drop in at the Round House Bar.  Trust me, you will have a VERY good time at that particular establishment.hile
I hope that helps.  If you have anymore questions, please feel free to ask or IM me.

- PM
5/15/2005 11:25:35 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I've attended Rifle SAFS twice, and it was a blast.  They supply M16's and the ammo.  When I was there both times, we were shooting from the 200 and 300 yard lines.  Prior to attending, the vast majority of my rifle shooting was at 100 yards.  Now, I actually prefer to shoot at much longer distances.

Day one consists of several hours of briefings by the US Army Marksmanship Unit regarding safety, operation of the M16 rifle, and the technical aspects of marksmanship.  The briefings take place in the auditorium on base at Camp Perry, and both times I was there the place was packed.  A word of advice here: don't drink too much coffee before the briefings, as the bathrooms are small and the lines into them are VERY long at the break times.

The rest of the day will consist of teaming up with your range instructor, who is a member of the various services' rifle teams.  My first year, I had a Navy shooting team instructor who knew his shit and did an excellent job of instructing.  My second year, I had a USAMU instructor who also did a really good job of things.  

On both days, your time will be divied up between working the target pits and the actual shooting.  Take a pair of sunglasses with you, and a boonie hat.  Also, wear grungy clothing (I wore BDUs), as the targets are set up on a rail/chain system that is covered in thick grease.  Not to mention the possibility of rain, mud, etc.  Also, wear your ear plugs when you are in the pits; the sound of rounds impacting the targets is NOT gentle on the ears.  Upon completion of the course, you will receive a certificate of completion, along with a gift.  My first year, they handed out t-shirts.  My second year, they handed out instructional manuals, which are quite excellent.  

I rented out a bed in the barracks for both nights, each time I attended.  They are a tremendous improvement over the huts that are located throughout the base.  Camp Perry used to be a POW camp for German soliders during WWII, and they were housed in these huts.  A friend of mine, who tagged along with me one year, jokingly referred to them as "kraut houses."

Dealer's Row is a lot of fun.  Bring LOTS of cash.  The CMP store is also cool.  I would avoid eating at the cafeteria on base, as the food is just "okay" and rather expensive, and the lines are long.  Definitely bring your cooler, and pack it with food.  Oh yeah, you will also be allowed to bring booze into the barracks.   I can think of no finer way to conclude a day of shooting than to shoot the bull with other fellow marksmen, while chugging down a few cold ones.
f you are looking for entertainment during the off
I hours, I would highly recommend getting on the Jet Express boat from Port Clinton to Put In Bay.  While you're there, drop in at the Round House Bar.  Trust me, you will have a VERY good time at that particular establishment.


Or go to Dr Ricks Downtown Pub in Port clinton, he is an ARFCOMMER and welcomes all shooting enthusiasts!!  

- PM

5/16/2005 9:14:41 PM EDT
[#4]
f you are looking for entertainment during the off
I hours, I would highly recommend getting on the Jet Express boat from Port Clinton to Put In Bay.  While you're there, drop in at the Round House Bar.  Trust me, you will have a VERY good time at that particular establishment.he


Darn, I wish I would have known it at the time.  Well, there's always next time; in fact, I have another buddy of mine who I recently introduced to shooting sports who is interested in SAFS.

- PM