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7/5/2014 12:01:54 PM EDT
If you have one post a pic Please.  

I have my first 3gun tomorrow and in order to run 30 round mags I need a featureless rifle.  

My friends are bringing the parts I need to run the course but I would like to see what everyone else is running.  

Thanks.
7/6/2014 8:41:23 AM EDT
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I've used both the MonsterMan and a wrap on my rifles before. Both aren't "that" bad. I have a "gamekeepers' thumb" injury on my right hand - think taking your thumb and rotating it back about 2 inches too far ... so keeping my thumb along side my index finger isn't bad. Holding my pistol grip rifles too long can cause me pain after awhile.







I go back-n-forth with some of my rifles using bullet buttons sometimes and non-pistol grips others. There are a number of muzzle brakes that are very effective and between choosing between flash suppression and muzzle jump suppression I'll always choose muzzle jump.

7/6/2014 4:30:18 PM EDT
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Just got home

Thanks for your post Paul.  

I did get to see first hand some of the featureless rifles   The grip is all kinds of fucked up but I have to live with it.
Personally I think it makes the rifle just awkward enough to be unsafe.

Anyway for my first one I wasn't bad at all.   Not last place more middle of the pack.
Soon to improve   O it was fucking awesome

7/12/2014 2:09:49 PM EDT
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I've used both the MonsterMan and a wrap on my rifles before. Both aren't "that" bad. I have a "gamekeepers' thumb" injury on my right hand - think taking your thumb and rotating it back about 2 inches too far ... so keeping my thumb along side my index finger isn't bad. Holding my pistol grip rifles too long can cause me pain after awhile.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/MonsterManGrip.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/GettingThereStepFour_zpse9d32fc3.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/SolarTacticalGrip_zps683cb310.jpg

I go back-n-forth with some of my rifles using bullet buttons sometimes and non-pistol grips others. There are a number of muzzle brakes that are very effective and between choosing between flash suppression and muzzle jump suppression I'll always choose muzzle jump.

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What kind of brakes?
7/12/2014 4:51:19 PM EDT
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Troy Claymore muzzle brake



I like them as they focus the blast forward while provide a lot of braking (there's an internal chamber the blast 'bounces' off).
7/13/2014 7:45:34 AM EDT
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When shooting in CA,

I use the Monsterman, BAD ambi-selector, Surefire brake, and A2 stock.  One slot head screw to deal with to put pistol grip back on.

I can shoot just as fast with the MMG as a pistol grip.
7/14/2014 3:28:58 AM EDT
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So...you know that featureless rifles allow you to have a magazine release...not to shoot 30-round mags, which is a whole 'nother issue...right?

If you can't have those mags--legally under CA law--your featureless rifle just allows you to drop 10-rounders at the push of a button.

More than likely, you're aware of this...but I want to mention it in case somebody who isn't aware reads this thread.

7/14/2014 3:05:37 PM EDT
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So...you know that featureless rifles allow you to have a magazine release...not to shoot 30-round mags, which is a whole 'nother issue...right?

If you can't have those mags--legally under CA law--your featureless rifle just allows you to drop 10-rounders at the push of a button.

More than likely, you're aware of this...but I want to mention it in case somebody who isn't aware reads this thread.

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You can use preban 10+ round mags in a featureless rifle.
7/14/2014 4:14:44 PM EDT
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You can use preban 10+ round mags in a featureless rifle.
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So...you know that featureless rifles allow you to have a magazine release...not to shoot 30-round mags, which is a whole 'nother issue...right?

If you can't have those mags--legally under CA law--your featureless rifle just allows you to drop 10-rounders at the push of a button.

More than likely, you're aware of this...but I want to mention it in case somebody who isn't aware reads this thread.



You can use preban 10+ round mags in a featureless rifle.


That's the way I understand it and I have a few.
7/14/2014 9:19:30 PM EDT
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That's the way I understand it and I have a few.
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You can use preban 10+ round mags in a featureless rifle.


That's the way I understand it and I have a few.


That's cool...as long as you legally owned them before January 1st, 2000.  I'm not trying to rain on your parade--I'm just wanting to make sure you got all the facts.
The only point of a "featureless rifle" is solely so one can use the mag release as it was designed, period...NOT to use hi-cap mags.  Just wanted to make sure that you were aware of the difference.