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12/14/2013 2:14:49 PM EDT
Still pretty new to the AR world and I just purchased some 30-round pmag rebuild kits and want to make sure I stay legal. I know there is a ton of debate about what is considered permanent and was hoping someone could provide some clarity. Is just installing a magblock good enough or do I need to weld/rivet/glue (whatever) the baseplate on as well?
12/14/2013 6:27:21 PM EDT
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I'd use (a lot of) epoxy so that the only way to remove the block is to destroy the magazine.
12/14/2013 10:47:45 PM EDT
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I'd use (a lot pf) epoxy so that the only way to remove the block is to destroy the magazine.
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+1  do the same, and I use these mag blocks.


 






12/16/2013 9:26:22 AM EDT
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I'm unsure about the pmags, but the USGI mags what my brother did was find where the bottom of the follower was with 10 rounds in it and then put a rivet in it.
12/18/2013 3:08:06 PM EDT
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Thanks guys. Sure would be nice if we could get an actual definition/description/whatever as to what the law considers permanent. Wishful thinking I know.
12/19/2013 12:00:11 AM EDT
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Thanks guys. Sure would be nice if we could get an actual definition/description/whatever as to what the law considers permanent. Wishful thinking I know.
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The law doesn't have a definition of permanence.

What we do have as a guideline for what DOJ considered permanent is from an attempt they made to re-define what a fixed magazine meant, by defining "permanently attached" or something like that.

The definition included a continuous bead weld, rivets, or epoxy cement as examples of permanent.

The general concensus is that putting in a magazine capacity limiter like Magpul has available, along with epoxying the baseplate in place from the inside constitutes permanence in compliance with DOJ's proposed definition from years ago.