Posted: 11/4/2013 12:58:32 PM EDT
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I read in the news that Ciancia used a S&W M&P15 bought from a gun store in Van Nuys. If that is correct, sounds like he may have removed the bullet button.
If he did, Yee will not let that go by. |
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Quoted: I read in the news that Ciancia used a S&W M&P15 bought from a gun store in Van Nuys. If that is correct, sounds like he may have removed the bullet button. If he did, Yee will not let that go by. |
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If only they make killing people illegal.  Every day, in General Discussion, there is a thread about legalizing some form of behavior that is currently illegal. It ranges from drugs and prostitution to really anything goes. The rationale is these are victimless crimes - no one gets hurt and no one pays a price. There are so many people in this country that have lost their moral center, it is truly sad. |
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In addition to having lost their morality, people have lost their minds. Drug crimes are not victimless. And no, we cannot do with our bodies whatever we please, and we should not. Oh well. I know, right?! You should totally start a movement to ban alcohol, since it is the most dangerous drug in the world. It's just a miracle of god that the country survived 150 years with marijuana being legal. And besides, that war on drugs is working so well. |
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I know, right?! You should totally start a movement to ban alcohol, since it is the most dangerous drug in the world. It's just a miracle of god that the country survived 150 years with marijuana being legal. And besides, that war on drugs is working so well. Quoted:
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In addition to having lost their morality, people have lost their minds. Drug crimes are not victimless. And no, we cannot do with our bodies whatever we please, and we should not. Oh well. I know, right?! You should totally start a movement to ban alcohol, since it is the most dangerous drug in the world. It's just a miracle of god that the country survived 150 years with marijuana being legal. And besides, that war on drugs is working so well. I knew somebody would quote that while I was editing it. Ugh. That the war on drugs is not as effective as we think it should be, does not mean drugs should be legalized. Many believe that legalized drugs would be worse than the war on drugs. You are free to disagree, and free to be wrong, of course. 
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I knew somebody would quote that while I was editing it. Ugh. That the war on drugs is not as effective as we think it should be, does not mean drugs should be legalized. Many believe that legalized drugs would be worse than the war on drugs. You are free to disagree, and free to be wrong, of course.
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In addition to having lost their morality, people have lost their minds. Drug crimes are not victimless. And no, we cannot do with our bodies whatever we please, and we should not. Oh well. I know, right?! You should totally start a movement to ban alcohol, since it is the most dangerous drug in the world. It's just a miracle of god that the country survived 150 years with marijuana being legal. And besides, that war on drugs is working so well. I knew somebody would quote that while I was editing it. Ugh. That the war on drugs is not as effective as we think it should be, does not mean drugs should be legalized. Many believe that legalized drugs would be worse than the war on drugs. You are free to disagree, and free to be wrong, of course.
Well I won't say anything else after this because this thread is already being derailed, but I just don't see how any supporter of the right to defend oneself on one hand can reconcile that with regulating what someone is allowed to put into their own body. You really have to do some mental gymnastics to get there (from a starting point of zero, not any current entrenched position). Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. 
If someone harms someone else, throw the motherf'in book at them! Stop releasing rapists and murderers, they had their chance. I'm sick of repeat offenders being released to repeat their harm to others once again. Doing that would go much further to solve our crime problems in 10 years than the war on drugs has in 30. |
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You are free to disagree, and free to be wrong, of course.
I'm 53 and old enough to remember what it was like before the War on Drugs started. In my Law 101 class I learned that it was actually illegal for the police to stop vehicles at checkpoints and check for the citizens' papers, it was illegal to intercept mail and read it, it required a warrant to conduct searches of homes, property couldn't be seized and turned over to government use, you couldn't be held down and have your blood forcibly pulled from your veins, you didn't have to fear depositing or carrying cash money ... all sorts of silly shit that for the first 210 years of our nation's history that we got wrong. Back then the cops didn't have full-auto rifles, helicopter gunships, armor personal carriers and SWAT was just a new concept. Oh those were the days. 
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