Posted: 3/11/2013 9:07:09 AM EDT
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Anybody else feel that?
There was a 5.1 just south of Palm Springs at 9:55 this morning. I felt it here in San Diego. |
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We are way over-due for THE BIG ONE. The latest predicts are that it will rip the San Andreas all the way from Salinas Valley to the Salton Sea. It will be about 8, possibly higher. It is really going to be something!
We all hope it never happens but, honestly speaking, it almost certainly will. The geologic record is very clear on that. “Residents were urged to prepare... to cope for being at least “two weeks on your own”, Los Angeles County Fire Asst. Chief David Stone said. “The message used to be 72 hours, but ... it will be very likely be more than three days before you start getting food, water and other supplies coming in from outside.” The Great Shakeout Scenario had an estimate of almost 2,000 fatalities and many times that injured from a localized 7.8. Are you prepared to be on your own for two weeks or a month without resuply? How much water do you have? What shelter will you use? Do you have enough food? Are these materials stored securely enough so they will survive and not be destroyed by an earthquake-caused building collapse or fire? Hurricanes afford days or weeks of warning and look at what happened with Katrina and Sandy. Imagine an 8.0 along the entire length of California with no warning. How far do you work from your home? How do you get home if the freeways and many surface streets are shut down due to ruptures and collapses of overpasses and interchanges? |
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By the way, the message was never 72 hours. It was always "at least three days". Everyone focusses on the three day part of that and forgets about the "at least" part.
I think two weeks is just a nominal time for the start of resupply. You, personally and individually, may not get resupplied in two weeks. It could be longer, maybe a lot longer, based upon what I read about Katrina and Sandy. |
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Was in Industry and didn't feel it.
I've been here a year. I have 1 month of food and 200 gallons of water plus other "camping" type things. I need more water and propane. I work 30 miles from home. I can hike that. I have a back pack, water, water filter, and general hiking stuff I take to keep me alive if I get stuck a couple days. I think the chances of not being able to drive home would be pretty high, but I keep the gas tank no less than 1/4 but usually 1/2. |
| yeah, nobody is going to be driving too far for a few days in a very very big and close one. We haven't seen too much major region-wide freeway or bridge damage in the past, but we have seen that it only takes one or two going out to really foul things up. Plus just the freaking volume of EVERYBODY trying to drive at the same time |
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Water Storage
Check for the water tanks built locally to save on freight. These guys sell mainly to those on wells who pump and store water above ground but they make some nice 200-350 gallon tanks that fit well in the corner of the yard. |
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More of the survivalist/EQ preps stores are selling barrels now. Although I did drive out to Highland to get mine, nobody local had them at a decent price or had internet ads that came up on searches. I've put a few in a garden shed along with other supplies and tools to get them out of the house/garage to a more accessible location. Most of the barrel suppliers also have freshening chemicals, but household bleach in the right proportion will keep it potable.
I do plan on poaching the neighbors pool water, for flushing purposes, only. |
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The water doesn't go bad, just that the oxygen dissolves out of it, you can still drink it.Do you have one, Paul? If so, how do you maintain the freshness (potability) of the water? Over time, it will grow algae. It won't take long, either - six months maybe, a year for sure. Around the perimeter at the water-tank interface, you will get mold. There could also be insect larvae (for example, mosquitoes) which grow. |
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Do you have one, Paul? If so, how do you maintain the freshness (potability) of the water? I have three 55 gallon blue barrels from MajorSurplus - I put city water into them and they don't grow algae in the two year cycle that I empty the water from them. They sit outside in a shed that I built for them. I have a 305 gallon tank-depot water tank on my shopping list ... just need to pull the trigger. It's got a spot awaiting it on the slope above my retaining wall. I've just been pondering on whether to pour a concrete foundation for it ... ponder, ponder, ponder ... |
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You know your site better than I, but the retaining wall may collapse, so that doesn't sound like a strategic place for it.
A reinforced concrete does sound good - easy to do, robust. You can add steel anchors and ties to the slab during the pour, so you can hold the water tank upright. It just would not be cool to have you 300 gallon water tank roll away and down the street into the neighbor's house. 
I had some 5 gallon bottles of water that grew algae in about a year. If there's any sunlight hitting them at all,... |
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Anyone know anything about these? $225 for the tank but $252 for freight (from TX). Still, $467 does not sound that bad for a reinforced tank that won't roll. http://www.tank-depot.com/productimages/nc/NC-275TOTE_180.jpg Not sure about those, but Honeyville Farm store in Rancho Cucamonga has a good selection of the black tanks. They can sit outside and not grow algae. About $300 for a 300 gallon tank. I got a 100. It's not earthquake tip proof but I will strap it. If the wall falls, oh well... I have several 7 gallon and 15 gallon that I can move around by hand or handtruck. I've let water go a year and it was fine. Was afraid to go longer. Honeyville Farms |
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Major Surplus & Survival have this stuff that can treat water for an extended time to prevent algae mold etc.
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The water doesn't go bad, just that the oxygen dissolves out of it, you can still drink it.Do you have one, Paul? If so, how do you maintain the freshness (potability) of the water? Over time, it will grow algae. It won't take long, either - six months maybe, a year for sure. Around the perimeter at the water-tank interface, you will get mold. There could also be insect larvae (for example, mosquitoes) which grow. |
