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2/9/2013 12:09:40 PM EDT
In the beginning ... step one.



A CMMG lower, Bushmaster M-4 upper, ARMS rear BUIS, PVS-14 ITT Gen3 PINNACLE scope in a TNVC mount, AK style brake, BadAss ambidextrous safety, 30-round USGI magazine, and the Monsterman grip. Some unknown tritium front sight. ACE Skeleton stock too. Still coming LaRue cantilever mount for my Aimpoint Comp M2, Troy mid-evil muzzle brake, and some Midwest Industries handguards to mount the Surefire IR illumination and laser.

This was a ~20 year old project that I decided to finish off (thanks to Obama) and get some trigger time behind.

When I'm done I'll photograph the completed project on a bed of 30 round magazines for the antburners.
2/9/2013 12:25:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Holy shit its got a thingamabob and a doohickey and that makes it icky




Nice stick
2/9/2013 12:25:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Getting there. Night vision has been on my "list" for about 15 years. I'm finally in the tax bracket where it was obtainable after many many years.


2/9/2013 12:36:29 PM EDT
[#3]
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Some unknown trillium front sight.

It's tritium, not trillium.  Trillium is from some science fiction story.  

<in Foghorn Leghorn's voice> "Tritium, I say, it's tritium!"


Forget who makes the shoulder stock too.

That is an ACE Skeleton stock.  I put a shorty ("ACE entry") on a rifle for my wife.  It's light in weight and has a shorter LOP better suited to her size.


When I'm done I'll photograph the completed project on a bed of 30 round magazines for the antburners.

heh heh



I'll ask but you don't have to answer.  What did the NVD cost and how long was the lead time?

2/9/2013 12:44:56 PM EDT
[#4]
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I'll ask but you don't have to answer.  What did the NVD cost and how long was the lead time?



Tritium ... darn auto correct!

I like the ACE stock with my body armor - good fit as I like a nose-to-the-charging handle stance.

The monocular was from Vic at www.tnvc.com here in Loma Linda CA. The delay was 8 weeks as I bought a couple weeks before Thanksgiving aiming for Christmas delivery ... but missed it by a couple of weeks! The kit was $3100 with the J arm, rifle mount and Aimpoint twist mount, camera adapter, and front and rear sacrificial lenes. That's a bit cheaper than third generation monocular from my pre-Y2K memories.
2/9/2013 3:53:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/GettingThere_zps90ed0c30.jpg

A CMMG lower, Bushmaster M-4 upper, ARMS rear BUIS, PVS-14 ITT Gen3 PINNACLE scope in a TNVC mount, AK style brake, and the Monsterman grip. Some unknown tritium front sight. ACE Skeleton stock too. Still coming LaRue cantilever mount for my Aimpoint Comp ML2, Troy mid-evil muzzle brake, and some Midwest Industries handguards to mount the Surefire IR illumination and laser.

This was a ~20 year old project that I decided to finish off (thanks to Obama) and get some trigger time behind.

When I'm done I'll photograph the completed project on a bed of 30 round magazines for the antburners.


Nice. I recently bought a PVS-14 also. I also picked up a DBAL to use with it. Next week I will be heading out to the desert to give it all a whirl together.  I have used the  PVS before but not with an infrared laser and helmet mount.  It will be interesting. I have a Aimpoint twist mount  so I can run either a magnifier or the PVS behind my eotech.
You got to love being able to see in the dark.
2/9/2013 5:41:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Isn't there some funkyness where you can have night vision on your rifle so long as there's no IR illuminator?
2/9/2013 7:29:14 PM EDT
[#7]

that is a really sweet featureless.
2/9/2013 8:14:52 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


Isn't there some funkyness where you can have night vision on your rifle so long as there's no IR illuminator?


Yep, Paul touched that subject under the picture he posted.



 
2/9/2013 8:20:30 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:





Quoted:

Isn't there some funkyness where you can have night vision on your rifle so long as there's no IR illuminator?


Yep, Paul touched that subject under the picture he posted.

 


Thank you, I didn't catch that the first time, I was blinded by jealousy

Will the illuminator mounted separately avoid all that nonsense?



 
2/9/2013 9:51:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Isn't there some funkyness where you can have night vision on your rifle so long as there's no IR illuminator?


CA's being being nanny and banning what they call a "sniperscope".

The law [PC 468] was written by people who did not know how a night vision device worked and were relying on stuff they saw in the movies and how 1950-60s era active IR night vision scopes worked. The law has never been updated to keep up with technology.

Summary of how the "sniperscope" law effects the legality of night vision devices in CA:
Active IR scope with magnification = illegal
Active IR scope with no magnification = legal
Passive IR scope with magnification = legal
Passive IR scope with magnification and an IR illuminator = illegal
Passive IR scope with no magnifcation = legal
Passive IR scope with no magnification and an IR illuminator = legal
Active IR goggles with magnification = legal
Active IR goggles with no magnification = legal
Passive IR goggles with magnification = legal
Passive IR goggles with magnification and an IR illuminator = legal
Passive IR googles with no magnification = legal
Passive IR goggles with no magnification and an IR illuminator = legal



Penal Code 468
Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment.    As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime. This section shall not prohibit the authorized use or possession of such sniperscope by a member of the armed forces of the United States or by police officers, peace officers, or law enforcement officers authorized by the properly constituted authorities for the enforcement of law or ordinances; nor shall this section prohibit the use or possession of such sniperscope when used solely for scientific research or educational purposes.
2/10/2013 5:06:16 AM EDT
[#11]
nice Paul!

sooo does my M84 sniper scope and my Oigee Berlin one mean I'm a law breaker?
2/11/2013 6:57:26 PM EDT
[#12]
LaRue has dropped a toy in the mail.
2/13/2013 1:08:12 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
LaRue has dropped a toy in the mail.


...aaaaaaaaannnddd?
2/13/2013 5:33:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Step two: rail kit added.

The LaRue Aimpoint mount arrives Saturday, going shooting tomorrow. Did get the rail kit and mounted the Elzetta Tactical light mount for the Aimpoint M1 IR light. I'm looking to mount an LED white light and I'm debating on the Elzetta ZFH1500 under-the-barrel mount or something on the port side (left side for you land lubbers). I sort of like the under-barrel mount on my other rifle. Having the IR on the side and the white light on the bottom makes for good muscle memory (for us senior citizens) so the two don't get mixed up. I'll toss in a 300-600 lumen JETbeam or Fenix LED light. I have JETbeam Jet-III lights on my other AR and shotgun and like the 10/450 lumen setting. Nice light pattern too.

Waiting on a Troy Claymore muzzle brake too.

Opinions on the white light mount are welcomed.

2/13/2013 8:31:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Did you do some antiquing to the receivers and barrel?

If so what methed did you use ?
2/13/2013 8:41:30 PM EDT
[#16]
The barrel had a MAPP gas torch taken to it to remove the evil baby killing attachment (also known as a flash suppressor).

Quoted:
If so what methed did you use ?


Photoshop!

I was playing with the level balance and pulled both the whites and blacks in compressing the dynamic range ... kind of liked the effect!

2/15/2013 8:59:23 AM EDT
[#17]
Step three: Lights done.

Went with a second Elzetta mount for the JETbeam white light. The tail cap is a good match to the Elzetta mount in that the rear of the flashlight has recesses in one direction. Rotated sideways the sling loop can't be used to turn the light on. Rotated 90 degrees pressing the support had up against the sling loop it presses the momentary on button (below). Rotating a bit more turns the light on constantly.

The Aimpoint mount is suppose to arrive today. Still waiting the muzzle brake and sling.



2/15/2013 9:09:38 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Isn't there some funkyness where you can have night vision on your rifle so long as there's no IR illuminator?


CA's being being nanny and banning what they call a "sniperscope".

The law [PC 468] was written by people who did not know how a night vision device worked and were relying on stuff they saw in the movies and how 1950-60s era active IR night vision scopes worked. The law has never been updated to keep up with technology.

Summary of how the "sniperscope" law effects the legality of night vision devices in CA:
Active IR scope with magnification = illegal
Active IR scope with no magnification = legal
Passive IR scope with magnification = legal
Passive IR scope with magnification and an IR illuminator = illegal
Passive IR scope with no magnifcation = legal
Passive IR scope with no magnification and an IR illuminator = legal
Active IR goggles with magnification = legal
Active IR goggles with no magnification = legal
Passive IR goggles with magnification = legal
Passive IR goggles with magnification and an IR illuminator = legal
Passive IR googles with no magnification = legal
Passive IR goggles with no magnification and an IR illuminator = legal



Penal Code 468
Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment.    As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime. This section shall not prohibit the authorized use or possession of such sniperscope by a member of the armed forces of the United States or by police officers, peace officers, or law enforcement officers authorized by the properly constituted authorities for the enforcement of law or ordinances; nor shall this section prohibit the use or possession of such sniperscope when used solely for scientific research or educational purposes.


So wait, you took something I thought I understood turned it upside down, inside and rendered me clueless all over again.  
If I have a PVS-14 mounted to a rifle with no AN/PEQ2, I am good?
If I have a PVS-14 mounted to a rifle with a mounted AN/PEQ-2, I am no good right?
If I have a PVS-14 on a helmet mount with an AN/PEQ2 mounted on the rifle, am I good?

I can't seem to wrap my head around the terminology in your post above.  
2/15/2013 11:31:09 AM EDT
[#19]
Step Three and a Half!

Pulled off the two level (10/450 lumen)  JETbeam and put on a Fenix TK22 with 650 lumens at high and four levels.

Awaiting the big brown truck for the mount!

2/15/2013 11:45:25 AM EDT
[#20]
Very nice setup Paul.  Congrats on the quality NV.

Curious, do you use a sling on this rifle sometimes?  If so, what does that setup consist of/look like?
2/15/2013 11:50:13 AM EDT
[#21]
Do you like the push-the-sling-loop to push the light button setup?  Seems more tricky/fail-to-do-what-I-intended-prone to me, but if you're happy with it more power to you.  If you don't use the sling loop you could drill out the rivet and remove it.

All of mine are removed.  I don't use them for my sling setups, they're just more rattle-battle and ounces at the front of the rifle to me.
2/15/2013 11:52:06 AM EDT
[#22]
My first sling is coming ... I have a Armageddon Gear carbine sling coming for a first attempt. In the past I used a three point sling but want to try the "bungee" type.

2/15/2013 11:54:52 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Do you like the push-the-sling-loop to push the light button setup?  Seems more tricky/fail-to-do-what-I-intended-prone to me, but if you're happy with it more power to you.  If you don't use the sling loop you could drill out the rivet and remove it.

All of mine are removed.  I don't use them for my sling setups, they're just more rattle-battle and ounces at the front of the rifle to me.


Good advice, I have pulled the sling loops off of other rifles and this one is going to go once I get the push-button quick-release swivel.
2/15/2013 11:55:50 AM EDT
[#24]
Who's handguard is that btw?  Did the handguard cap have to be crushed/bent to make it fit?

I see the delta ring, so probably not FF (ETA: well, I guess some are like the DD), so doesn't matter except wondering why the manufactuerer didn't make it the right length?  So is the front cap is still used to retain it on that model or no?
2/15/2013 11:59:59 AM EDT
[#25]
Oh, and most importantly, did you get to shoot it at night yet? From what I can tell from your past pictures you have some excellent places to do so.

ETA: oh wait, still need the cantilever mount for your CompM2, my bad.
2/15/2013 12:03:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
My first sling is coming ... I have a Armageddon Gear carbine sling coming for a first attempt. In the past I used a three point sling but want to try the "bungee" type.

http://www.laruetactical.com/sites/default/files/img_9957.jpg


You're lefty though, right?  Can't wait to see it on your rifle.
2/15/2013 1:15:42 PM EDT
[#27]
LaRue ships their gear via UPS - and then requests that the USPS delivers them . More than once I've complained the someone was home and the USPS guy hasn't bothered to walk to my door and has returned packages back to the main office (different part of town). UPS (somehow) manages to walk to my door and rarely misses us and they'll try three times before returning the item - and will even leave items at the neighbors if I ask them.

Quoted:

You're lefty though, right?  Can't wait to see it on your rifle.


I go both ways ... I thought everyone knew that about me.

I'm right-hand dominate but shoot both ways. The IR light is on the starboard side for slinged clearance. Still playing with the lights while looking for an IR laser.

Quoted:
Who's handguard is that btw?  Did the handguard cap have to be crushed/bent to make it fit?

I see the delta ring, so probably not FF (ETA: well, I guess some are like the DD), so doesn't matter except wondering why the manufactuerer didn't make it the right length?  So is the front cap is still used to retain it on that model or no?


The front cap is crushed.
2/15/2013 1:53:27 PM EDT
[#28]
Nope, I didn't know you shoot ambi on regular basis too, found out something new.

I think my pattern here is tending to stick to the tech & EE parts of the site except for a few months every few years or so.

Did you take a before-tansformation weight?  Any predictions or suspicions what the final weight will be?
2/15/2013 3:12:46 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Did you take a before-tansformation weight?  Any predictions or suspicions what the final weight will be?


Heavy! For ten years I've been a KISS person but I threw the towel in and sent whole hog. The big brown truck visited the post office ... and the USPS man made the delivery tonight. Too bad I started smoking the turkey breast hours ago less I put the Dillo Dust to sample.
2/15/2013 3:13:41 PM EDT
[#30]
The Troy Claymore mounted above the Fenix TK22. Troy throws a free crush washer in the package.

2/15/2013 3:14:27 PM EDT
[#31]
Almost done ... still hunting for an IR laser and waiting on the new sling.

2/15/2013 3:17:17 PM EDT
[#32]
And a closer photo of the optics. The TNVC and Aimpoint mount for the PVS-14 lines up really well with the LaRue M68 cantilever mount. I was worried about the meeting of the two but they both appear about 1.7" above the rail. I mounted the night vision scope to where I think it feels comfortable when shouldered and put the Aimpoint as close as I could get afterwards. Since I took the photo I've moved the Comp ML2 back about a quarter of an inch so that the two optics are just about touching.

Got to tell my wife I'm going for a couple of hour drive tonight.

2/15/2013 5:54:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Nice rig, but it's looking heavy
2/15/2013 6:02:45 PM EDT
[#34]
That's sweet. That brake looks great too!
2/15/2013 6:41:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Nice rig, but it's looking heavy


No kidding. I've got a few uppers to rotate onto this guy when I don't feel like 8 pound curls!

Nothing is very heavy ... but it's the BUIS, the night vision monocular, the red dot, loaded 30-round magazine ... all add up for another couple of pounds. The flashlight mounts are light enough but the flashlights aren't.

Somewhere down the list is a helmet to mount the NVD on which will get that off the rifle ... and onto my noggin.

2/15/2013 6:42:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
That's sweet. That brake looks great too!


I covered the bayonet lug with the white light mount so the brake is a nice prod.
2/19/2013 12:13:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
The barrel had a MAPP gas torch taken to it to remove the evil baby killing attachment (also known as a flash suppressor).

Quoted:
If so what methed did you use ?


Photoshop!

I was playing with the level balance and pulled both the whites and blacks in compressing the dynamic range ... kind of liked the effect!



Man I thought you were on to something. I want to antique my mega 308 and put some wood furniture on it.
3/27/2013 8:35:58 PM EDT
[#38]


Zombies ... bring 'em!

Need a small counter weight pouch to hold a spare battery for the PVS-14 and some sort of patch for the side.
3/28/2013 6:07:43 AM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:


http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/PVS-14withHelmet_zps3c4e5ecf.jpg



Zombies ... bring 'em!



Need a small counter weight pouch to hold a spare battery for the PVS-14 and some sort of patch for the side.


Is that at pro-tech from TNVC? Let me know how you like it after you use it a few times. I have been considering one myself?