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6/5/2010 10:51:32 AM EDT
Not in a state where 75% of potential future voters will be Democrat .
6/5/2010 11:03:48 AM EDT
[#1]
Agreed. Hell no.
6/5/2010 11:29:38 AM EDT
[#2]
A political party has a right to chose its own candidates.
6/5/2010 11:31:02 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Agreed. Hell no.


6/5/2010 3:52:38 PM EDT
[#4]
A political party does have the right to choose its candidates.

If this goes thru the CA Rs will go to a caucus system.

But these parties also have the right to fade into irrelevancy.

If the management of the CA R party (CRA, Ron Nehring etc.) does not do something we will lose the ~1/3 seats we have now
in the legislature.  Once that mark is passed we don't even have a modicum budget control (not that we had any before).

Appeals to Tea partiers will not get us any more seats;  the idea that "getting out the base" will help in the General is laughable.
"Conservatives" - meaning Orange County religious-tainted etc. as opposed to purely small gov't/liberty-oriented - vastly
overestimate their relevance in CA  and have a variety of positions that alienate otherwise fairly conservative middle-roaders.

Since the CA R party is failing, it can't get anyone up thru its ranks for statewide office that have a smell of a chance of winning,
so rich outsiders like Whitman and Poizner get dropped in.


Bill Wiese
San Jose CA

6/6/2010 1:42:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
A political party does have the right to choose its candidates.

If this goes thru the CA Rs will go to a caucus system.

But these parties also have the right to fade into irrelevancy.

If the management of the CA R party (CRA, Ron Nehring etc.) does not do something we will lose the ~1/3 seats we have now
in the legislature.  Once that mark is passed we don't even have a modicum budget control (not that we had any before).

Appeals to Tea partiers will not get us any more seats;  the idea that "getting out the base" will help in the General is laughable.
"Conservatives" - meaning Orange County religious-tainted etc. as opposed to purely small gov't/liberty-oriented - vastly
overestimate their relevance in CA  and have a variety of positions that alienate otherwise fairly conservative middle-roaders.

Since the CA R party is failing, it can't get anyone up thru its ranks for statewide office that have a smell of a chance of winning,
so rich outsiders like Whitman and Poizner get dropped in.


Bill Wiese
San Jose CA


I'll take that as a no .
6/7/2010 2:48:03 PM EDT
[#6]
This does cut both ways... it would allow Republicans the opportunity to vote AGAINST favored primary candidates of the opposition.
6/7/2010 7:51:07 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
This does cut both ways... it would allow Republicans the opportunity to vote AGAINST favored primary candidates of the opposition.


Perhaps in Texas (They could use Term Limits there  also )
6/8/2010 10:06:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
This does cut both ways... it would allow Republicans the opportunity to vote AGAINST favored primary candidates of the opposition.


That was one of the justifications given several years ago when a different proposition changed California primaries from an open to a party system.

It seems we can't make up our minds which way to go.
6/8/2010 10:13:27 PM EDT
[#9]
well, it passed.... just how fucked are we?
6/9/2010 7:45:03 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
well, it passed.... just how fucked are we?


Amnesty passes and the Conservative Movement/Tea party /GOP are finished Nationally .
6/9/2010 3:02:32 PM EDT
[#11]
If anything, yesterdays results show that the conservative movement and gun owners are not particularly powerfull voting blocks.

I dont think a candidate I've supported has won an election in the last 15 years or more.
6/9/2010 11:46:06 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
If anything, yesterdays results show that the conservative movement and gun owners are not particularly powerfull voting blocks.

I dont think a candidate I've supported has won an election in the last 15 years or more.


I totally disagree with your first claim.

I do agree with the second.  I feel totally without representation in my "representative" republic.