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5/4/2009 6:27:33 PM EDT
I have looked every where,and read many post reguarding finishing a 80% ar reciever. And nothing dealing with the leagality in Ca. is really defined. I have searched every where I can think of, anyone have an idea or link?
5/4/2009 6:53:43 PM EDT
[#1]
An 80% is not regulated by the BATF until it becomes a 100% in the same way that CA DOJ won't consider this a firearm until it's milled. Obviously this is going to be an off list lower, so you should have nothing to worry about (that is until you add evil features).
5/4/2009 7:00:13 PM EDT
[#2]
It's a gray area IMHO.

First an 80% lower isn't cheap by any means. Figure that the forging itself is more expensive than a finished receiver and then there's the investment in the tools and your time to build one. I've built a few of them myself but it was for the fun of it, not to make my primary weapon. The federal law is that you can not manufacture a weapon that it would be illegal for you to own if you bought it off the shelf - so that means that it has to be built like you would an Off List Lower or MonsterMan featureless configuration rather than a registered rifle.

Still gray.
5/4/2009 7:36:39 PM EDT
[#3]
So if I do finish the reciever, can it be registered?
5/4/2009 8:34:37 PM EDT
[#4]
If you give it a distinct serial number yes. Why you would want to however, is beyond me.
5/4/2009 10:38:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
So if I do finish the reciever, can it be registered?


If it is for a rifle you can but you don't have to. Even the CA DOJ would give a weird look.

If it is for a pistol I don't think you do, but you should find an answer for somebody does know.
5/5/2009 8:45:14 PM EDT
[#6]
Rifles do not have to be registered in CA.  Certain assault weapons were registerable years ago which allowed  all evil features, detachable mags, etc.  Current, legal OLL's do not require registration as long as they are assembled as a rifle.
5/5/2009 8:48:33 PM EDT
[#7]
80% lowers are not required to have serial number by either federal BATFE or CA state law.  It is a good idea to do so for traceability if the thing is ever stolen.  Without a S/N you will never be able to prove it is yours if it is recovered.
5/5/2009 11:23:38 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


So if I do finish the reciever, can it be registered?


You may not registered it as an AW.  If you build it without the evil features (fixed 10 rd. mags or MonsterMan grip) it doesn't have to.  If you want that something extra you MAY NOT as the registration deadline was 12/31/1999.



IIRC YMMV ETC.



 
5/6/2009 7:05:53 AM EDT
[#9]
Thanks fellas,I'm gonna make some chips. I'll let you know how it turns out.
marcus