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1/28/2009 7:09:05 PM EDT
So this is officially my first post so I'm allowed a newbie post
I'm new to California, and am trying to see if anyone here's ordered from 44mag before.  Not the regular 10rd mags that we're allowed to have but rather the magazine rebuild kits for hi-cap mags.  
I'm not looking to go to prison or I'd rather just buy the 10 rounders.  
I know that pre-2000 mags are ok to own and these repair kits would be post ban.  Just looking for reassurance from you guys that it's ok to buy these hi cap "repair" kits from them.
I take it as long as hi cap mags are sold to us in "parts" or "pieces" we are ok?

Thanks for your help in advance
1/28/2009 7:57:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
So this is officially my first post so I'm allowed a newbie post
I'm new to California, and am trying to see if anyone here's ordered from 44mag before.  Not the regular 10rd mags that we're allowed to have but rather the magazine rebuild kits for hi-cap mags.  
I'm not looking to go to prison or I'd rather just buy the 10 rounders.  
I know that pre-2000 mags are ok to own and these repair kits would be post ban.  Just looking for reassurance from you guys that it's ok to buy these hi cap "repair" kits from them.
I take it as long as hi cap mags are sold to us in "parts" or "pieces" we are ok?

Thanks for your help in advance


Well yes and a big fat NO...

You can not simply buy mag repair parts and assemble them into hi-caps mags and call it good.

You must have owned the hi-cap mag (and I hate that term since a 30rd magazine is the standard AR15 magazine) before 2000 in order for you to be allowed to "rebuild" it.

there are a lot of people playing fuck fuck games with that law...and someones gonna end up getting fucked.  ITS NOT WORTH IT.

So yes, you can order the magazine rebuild kits if you want.......Its your call my friend...

Welcome to the site, stay safe.
CWD.

1/28/2009 8:28:41 PM EDT
[#2]
44mag is doing us a favor by selling us the parts to make a 10-rd mag that looks like a regular mag (by inserting a block to limit the capacity).

don't abuse it.
1/28/2009 10:45:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I take it as long as hi cap mags are sold to us in "parts" or "pieces" we are ok?

Yes, ordering parts from 44mag.com is legal.

Yes, you may use them to rebuild your lawfully possessed large capacity magazines.

No, using the parts to to build new large capacity magazines is a felony.
1/29/2009 1:38:20 AM EDT
[#4]
yes I have ordered from them to fix a few 30 round mags that got damaged feed lips. They had great service and I would order from them again if I need too
1/29/2009 8:43:27 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I take it as long as hi cap mags are sold to us in "parts" or "pieces" we are ok?

Yes, ordering parts from 44mag.com is legal.

Yes, you may use them to rebuild your lawfully possessed large capacity magazines.

No, using the parts to to build new large capacity magazines is a felony.


Got it.  Thank you!!
1/29/2009 1:41:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
44mag is doing us a favor by selling us the parts to make a 10-rd mag that looks like a regular mag (by inserting a block to limit the capacity).

don't abuse it.


Does anyone sell these blocks to make a vintage USGI Aluminium 20 rounder into a 10/20 ? (Or should a more permanant modification be done because reguardless of weather you possesed the USGI mag before jan 1 2000 it's a No No on a OLL build unless you go the Monster Man grip route insted of a BB ?)
1/29/2009 1:45:08 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I'm new to California, and am trying to see if anyone here's ordered from 44mag before.  Not the regular 10rd mags that we're allowed to have but rather the magazine rebuild kits for hi-cap mags.  


Please be very careful. Being new to California means you probably did not lawfully own any hi-cap mags as you were not here prior to Jan. 2000. They are not transferrable and you just posted on an internet forum that I'm sure is monitored by DOJ and BATF that you may be comtemplating buying replacement parts for hi-cap mags that you may not own .
1/29/2009 2:50:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm new to California, and am trying to see if anyone here's ordered from 44mag before.  Not the regular 10rd mags that we're allowed to have but rather the magazine rebuild kits for hi-cap mags.  


Please be very careful. Being new to California means you probably did not lawfully own any hi-cap mags as you were not here prior to Jan. 2000. They are not transferrable and you just posted on an internet forum that I'm sure is monitored by DOJ and BATF that you may be comtemplating buying replacement parts for hi-cap mags that you may not own .

i thought the law was that you had to legally own the >10 round mags previous to 2000, regardless of what state you lived in.  

is this correct, or did you have to own the >10 round mags prior to 2000 AND be a resident of CA at that time?
1/29/2009 3:31:09 PM EDT
[#9]
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is this correct, or did you have to own the >10 round mags prior to 2000
AND be a resident of CA at that time?


There is no requirement of CA residency ... you just had to have possessed
and/or acquired the mags in CA on or before 12/31/1999.

For example, these acquisition/possession/import situations are legal:

  •  You were an AZ resident in 1997, bought hicaps at a CA gunshow in 1999
    and you moved to CA anytime afterward, even after 2000 with those *particular* hicap mags


  • You were a CA resident, acquired hicap mags in the 1990s.  In 1999 you
    moved to NV then to OR.  In 2005 you moved back to CA.  You can bring the
    hicap mags you had in CA before 2000 back with you.


  • CA law provides that if you possessed the mags in CA before 1/1/2000, they can be reimported.   The goal was to allow people to travel out & back with their own legit property on vacation, or outta state shoots, etc.  There was no time limit, so that could also include multiyear move-away job changes followed by a move back to CA. No residency restriction was codified either, so law really revolves around "...if you had the hicap mag in CA before 2000..."

     

    Bill Wiese
    San Jose CA
    1/29/2009 6:04:07 PM EDT
    [#10]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    44mag is doing us a favor by selling us the parts to make a 10-rd mag that looks like a regular mag (by inserting a block to limit the capacity).

    don't abuse it.


    Does anyone sell these blocks to make a vintage USGI Aluminium 20 rounder into a 10/20 ? (Or should a more permanant modification be done because reguardless of weather you possesed the USGI mag before jan 1 2000 it's a No No on a OLL build unless you go the Monster Man grip route insted of a BB ?)


    I haven't found a "block" that is sold by anyone for this purpose.  But what I've done, is grab a piece of material (plastic, metal, or something else solid) and appoxy the shit out of it on the inside of the mag body.  This is of course after I have it in the proper place to prevent the mag from accepting more than 10 rounds.  I then will put a ton of appoxy into that grove the mag follower slips into on the mag body (making it even harder/impossible to unmodify the mag, as I don't know how you would get it out of there).  Then to cap it off, I'll appoxy the floorplate on the mag.  I don't have pictures of this.  But you can believe the only way this mag will accept more than 10 rounds is if you cut the whole damn thing apart and mix the rounds into the many many pieces of the former mag...


    To the OP though, make sure you do not completely assemble the mag before it has been modified to only accept 10 rounds.
    1/29/2009 7:01:24 PM EDT
    [#11]
    I keep receipts for my mags..Got like 15 or 16 pre 1994 made mags and they function fine but I did put in new springs and the Magpul followers.

    Receipts are nice...


    1/30/2009 4:30:42 PM EDT
    [#12]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    44mag is doing us a favor by selling us the parts to make a 10-rd mag that looks like a regular mag (by inserting a block to limit the capacity).

    don't abuse it.


    Does anyone sell these blocks to make a vintage USGI Aluminium 20 rounder into a 10/20 ? (Or should a more permanant modification be done because reguardless of weather you possesed the USGI mag before jan 1 2000 it's a No No on a OLL build unless you go the Monster Man grip route insted of a BB ?)


    I haven't found a "block" that is sold by anyone for this purpose.  But what I've done, is grab a piece of material (plastic, metal, or something else solid) and appoxy the shit out of it on the inside of the mag body.  This is of course after I have it in the proper place to prevent the mag from accepting more than 10 rounds.  I then will put a ton of appoxy into that grove the mag follower slips into on the mag body (making it even harder/impossible to unmodify the mag, as I don't know how you would get it out of there).  Then to cap it off, I'll appoxy the floorplate on the mag.  I don't have pictures of this.  But you can believe the only way this mag will accept more than 10 rounds is if you cut the whole damn thing apart and mix the rounds into the many many pieces of the former mag...


    To the OP though, make sure you do not completely assemble the mag before it has been modified to only accept 10 rounds.


    I'd never assemble a hi-cap mag here, I love my freedom
    Dissasembled my hi cap's before even coming here.  I always keep firearm locked in it's box,  mags unloaded and locked seperately, ammo stored seperately (which is probably more than 90% of people in here).  If firearm is out I have the slide locked back, no mag, mag unloaded until I get to the range.. safety/legality first and that's the way I tought everyone in my household.  I guess since I'm new here some guys thought I wasn't into safety or legality, but rather I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything illegal by ordering parts kits.  Like I said Im new to the state, just want to make sure since nothing is more important than my freedom.  Gotta hava parts now-a-days since who knows what'll happen in the future. I appreciate the information you guys have shared very much.  Thanks again