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10/2/2005 9:11:23 AM EDT
Hello all ,
Id really like to build an AR , But im still not sure about what is legal and whats not .

So I buy a doj approved Vulcan lower ,with a fixed 10 round mag  ,what about the  - pistol grip -flash hider  -  tele stock ?  I can have ONE of these things ? OR can I have the "AW" grip and somthing else ? I just have to keep overall length to 30 whatever inches .  Sorry to ask what many have asked alredy .
Nate
EDIT : I just re-read some things , With a fixed 10 round mag , I can have any of the other features ?
10/2/2005 10:06:14 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes.
10/2/2005 10:50:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes , with a 10 round fixed , I can have a tele stock and a flash hider ?
10/2/2005 11:10:22 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Yes , with a 10 round fixed , I can have a tele stock and a flash hider ?

Yes you can. I shot my vulcan again yesterday, shot great.
10/2/2005 8:55:36 PM EDT
[#4]
If the magazine is not detachable, it isn't an assault weapon and there are no restrictions on feautres.

Along a similar vein, if it is already a registered assault weapon, there are no restrictions on features.
10/2/2005 10:10:37 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
If the magazine is not detachable, it isn't an assault weapon and there are no restrictions on feautres.

Along a similar vein, if it is already a registered assault weapon, there are no restrictions on features.



Just remember to keep the max count under 10 rounds.
10/3/2005 5:25:34 AM EDT
[#6]
And by CA law I have to keep the barrel to 16 in ? And overall to 30 in right ?  With a tele stock open or closed , I think i would make it 30 closed to be safe ?  Thanks guys
10/3/2005 9:43:12 AM EDT
[#7]
Is it 30", I thoght it was 26"?
10/3/2005 2:32:26 PM EDT
[#8]
16" barrel is federal law.
10/3/2005 2:48:48 PM EDT
[#9]
I am pretty sure the 26 is for shotguns. I THOUGHT the rules were:

Rifle: 16" barrel & 30" overall
Shotgun: 18" barrel & 26" overall
10/3/2005 3:28:56 PM EDT
[#10]
neo,
16" barrel at the shortest.. dont worry bout the 30"...  theres no reason to have your barrel anywhere near that long ...
as for overall length, (if thats what you meant)  16"along wiht the receiver and stock... will not be any issue...
10/3/2005 4:34:52 PM EDT
[#11]
AW if -

"A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches."


Rimfire -"Under federal law you still must maintain an overall legnth of more than twenty-six inches. The ATF measures overall length with stocks un-folded/un-collapsed."
10/3/2005 5:46:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Can you have a 14.5"bbl IF you also have a muzzle attachment of at least 1.5" permanently/semi permanently attached?    I'm "stuck" with a 14.5" upper and would like to make sure if I ever use it it's totally legal.
10/3/2005 8:09:48 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Can you have a 14.5"bbl IF you also have a muzzle attachment of at least 1.5" permanently/semi permanently attached?    I'm "stuck" with a 14.5" upper and would like to make sure if I ever use it it's totally legal.

Yes, I've got a couple 14.5s with vortexes permanently attached.
10/3/2005 9:06:14 PM EDT
[#14]
Just remember that IF your barrel is 14.5" and your attachment, of whatever kind, is 1.5" then when they are together it will only be about 15.5" because roughly half an inch or so gets overlapped as it is threaded on. So if when buying an attachment, don't go for the bare minimum in length, but rather look for something roughly half an inch longer.
10/3/2005 9:56:57 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Just remember that IF your barrel is 14.5" and your attachment, of whatever kind, is 1.5" then when they are together it will only be about 15.5" because roughly half an inch or so gets overlapped as it is threaded on. So if when buying an attachment, don't go for the bare minimum in length, but rather look for something roughly half an inch longer.


Good point!  The muzzle attachment I have is one of those 5" "commando" look-a-like flash suppressors.  

Now, what is the best way to permanently fasten it? Silver solder, weld.....loc-tite? have
ETA: Oh man, after reviewing the "flash suppressor review" thread, I'm dropping the cheesy commando wannabe and going with a Vortex.  An ad I saw for it says it's 2 .25".  That should be just enough to clear the 16" mark.