Posted: 12/19/2011 8:08:29 PM EDT
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Sorry for the delay.
The scores from this past Sunday's match (12/18), are now up and available. Thanks! CFDCC Match Results |
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Thanks for posting scores!! Hope to be there next month too! What's the symbol next to trooper class shooters? I thought it was going to be that Iron Maiden character!!  Star Wars Trooper!!! How was the Triple Nickel supposed to be scored? If you didn't engage the last target by the 5 second par time, you got 10 points down plus a FTN right? Only ask cause shooters 6 through 23 all had FTN's..this is the third straight month we ran this COF and there's only ever been 3-4 at most that actually made the par time..Seems odd that 23 got it this month.. |
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Thanks for posting scores!! Hope to be there next month too! What's the symbol next to trooper class shooters? I thought it was going to be that Iron Maiden character!! Star Wars Trooper!!! How was the Triple Nickel supposed to be scored? If you didn't engage the last target by the 5 second par time, you got 10 points down plus a FTN right? Only ask cause shooters 6 through 23 all had FTN's..this is the third straight month we ran this COF and there's only ever been 3-4 at most that actually made the par time..Seems odd that 23 got it this month.. If you read the scores as "If they don't have an FTN, they landed at least one round on the last target" then only shooters 1 through 5 managed to engage the fifth target. I do know that at least one squad was scoring a failure to engage the last target as a 30 second FTN only, without giving an additional 10 points for the two misses, and that's reflected in the final results. On the other hand, there's a few other issues on other stages with various squads doing things differently...I suspect that there needs to be a bit more clarification amongst the ROs regarding how to run and score each stage, as there was quite a bit of diversity on scoring methods from what I could see. |
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I entered what was on the sheets.
Specifically, Target Points Down, which should include any non-zero hits on all the targets. For Penalty points, it would be any FTN's, which include all the targets. There were instances where a shooter failed to get a single shot in the 0 or 1 range on one of the first 4 targets, and hence, would incur an FTN. If you got all 0's on the first four targets, then didn't have enough time to hit the last one at all, then you would get 10 target points down (5 misses X 2) + 30 Penalty points for the FTN. All RO's should know how to score properly. That being said, we can do a better job at clarification of points / penalties. Hope that helps. Thanks! |
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Since I'm still pretty new with competition shooting, I don't understand some things about scoring. For example, how does time of 00:00:33.30 + 12 target points becomes 00:01:14.87? My understanding is that target points are seconds. Thanks in advance for explanation!
Never mind, Tony explained it to me over Facebook! |
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On the 5-5-5, everyone should have 5 seconds if they didn't complete it in less than 5 seconds.
I noticed some people were shooting the targets out of order and at first I regretted not being more explicit in the written description. Then I tried the drill with a G36 after the match and realized that there are some guns that are nearly impossible to the drill in less than 5 seconds with. So maybe having a way to punt and get a reasonable score without having to do the reload is okay –– maybe not. |
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OK... I'll fix all the 5-5-5 scores. Also will fix the Red/Blue first place shooter that Billy brought to my attention. Good deal. My 5-5-5 time is like the speed of light –– nothing can go faster! I might do two reloads next time just for fun. A prize in March to someone who can complete it in less than 4.38s. |
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OK... I'll fix all the 5-5-5 scores. Also will fix the Red/Blue first place shooter that Billy brought to my attention. Good deal. My 5-5-5 time is like the speed of light –– nothing can go faster! I might do two reloads next time just for fun. A prize in March to someone who can complete it in less than 4.38s. Bet! |
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OK... I'll fix all the 5-5-5 scores. Also will fix the Red/Blue first place shooter that Billy brought to my attention. Good deal. My 5-5-5 time is like the speed of light –– nothing can go faster! I might do two reloads next time just for fun. A prize in March to someone who can complete it in less than 4.38s. 95% of the shooters didn't engage the #5 target in time at all.. That' translates to 10 target points = 31.6 seconds + 30 second FTN makes that those two rounds waaaay too costly. If 90% of the shooters could make the 5-5-5, and only 10% got the penalty, that's one thing. Statistically, I think the 5-5-5 is too heavily weighted. But that's just me. |
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OK... I'll fix all the 5-5-5 scores. Also will fix the Red/Blue first place shooter that Billy brought to my attention. Good deal. My 5-5-5 time is like the speed of light –– nothing can go faster! I might do two reloads next time just for fun. A prize in March to someone who can complete it in less than 4.38s. 95% of the shooters didn't engage the #5 target in time at all.. That' translates to 10 target points = 31.6 seconds + 30 second FTN makes that those two rounds waaaay too costly. If 90% of the shooters could make the 5-5-5, and only 10% got the penalty, that's one thing. Statistically, I think the 5-5-5 is too heavily weighted. But that's just me. It's also getting kinda old to have the same stage each month, when you're not running a weapon capable of reloading fast enough to possibly complete the stage. Anything using rock-in magazines is going to be seriously handicapped - if not impossible to complete, it's damn near close to requiring Olympic-level skill to clean. I finally managed to get one round on the last target before the buzzer went off, but not for score. Part of me appreciates the challenge...but part of me is sick of doing the same drill over and over knowing that I might as well just skip the last target entirely and concentrate on reducing points down on the first four targets so that I'll "only" be down 40 points instead of 40 plus whatever dropped points were incurred from the first eight rounds. |
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95% of the shooters didn't engage the #5 target in time at all.. That' translates to 10 target points = 31.6 seconds + 30 second FTN makes that those two rounds waaaay too costly. If 90% of the shooters could make the 5-5-5, and only 10% got the penalty, that's one thing. Statistically, I think the 5-5-5 is too heavily weighted. But that's just me. It's also getting kinda old to have the same stage each month, when you're not running a weapon capable of reloading fast enough to possibly complete the stage. Anything using rock-in magazines is going to be seriously handicapped - if not impossible to complete, it's damn near close to requiring Olympic-level skill to clean. I finally managed to get one round on the last target before the buzzer went off, but not for score. Part of me appreciates the challenge...but part of me is sick of doing the same drill over and over knowing that I might as well just skip the last target entirely and concentrate on reducing points down on the first four targets so that I'll "only" be down 40 points instead of 40 plus whatever dropped points were incurred from the first eight rounds. Good points –– it is retired until March. I think it is really fun for people who can come close to clearing it but I can see how it can be demoralizing to people who have rifles that make it near impossible. It is also an easy stage to set up but three matches in a row is a bit much. |
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Just FYI, the schedule for 2012 is as follows:
January 15 February 19 March 18 April 15 May 20 June 17 July 15 August 19 September 16 October 21 November 18 December 16 Occasionally, I get an email asking if we're having a shoot. We haven't missed one yet and looking at the 2012 calendar, I don't see a reason we will next year so the plan is to have a match *every* third Sunday of the month. |
| Out of sheer curiosity and perversity...what about a stage with a fairly typical course of fire, but requiring that the entire stage be shot while wearing a paintball mask? Provide two or three different masks to accomodate different individual fits, and leave the masks on that stage for simplicity. Perhaps something for the back range area (where the 50 yard zero stage has been shot) to allow longer-range shots as well? |
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Out of sheer curiosity and perversity...what about a stage with a fairly typical course of fire, but requiring that the entire stage be shot while wearing a paintball mask? Provide two or three different masks to accomodate different individual fits, and leave the masks on that stage for simplicity. Perhaps something for the back range area (where the 50 yard zero stage has been shot) to allow longer-range shots as well? FDCC did something similar to this back in 2009. We ran a stage with a gas mask. It was my first time shooting with a mask and very challenging. 
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Out of sheer curiosity and perversity...what about a stage with a fairly typical course of fire, but requiring that the entire stage be shot while wearing a paintball mask? Sounds good. I'll see if I can get a few masks for this. We almost certainly can't do it this January but maybe March. |
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Out of sheer curiosity and perversity...what about a stage with a fairly typical course of fire, but requiring that the entire stage be shot while wearing a paintball mask? Sounds good. I'll see if I can get a few masks for this. We almost certainly can't do it this January but maybe March. So long as Patient 0 doesn't show up. Bring some disinfecting/alcohol wipes. |
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Out of sheer curiosity and perversity...what about a stage with a fairly typical course of fire, but requiring that the entire stage be shot while wearing a paintball mask? Sounds good. I'll see if I can get a few masks for this. We almost certainly can't do it this January but maybe March. Are stages planned out several months in advance? Kinda wondered what the procedure was for a new stage, if they're created the day before or further out. |
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Out of sheer curiosity and perversity...what about a stage with a fairly typical course of fire, but requiring that the entire stage be shot while wearing a paintball mask? Sounds good. I'll see if I can get a few masks for this. We almost certainly can't do it this January but maybe March. Are stages planned out several months in advance? Kinda wondered what the procedure was for a new stage, if they're created the day before or further out. Anywhere between years in advance to the day before. :^) I have ideas and things I want to do all of the time but the bigest limiting factor is the state of the range when I go to set up and the number of people helping. I will not be around next month to set-up so I am pushing promises to March. |