Posted: 9/19/2011 11:43:42 AM EDT
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They fired the Pharmacist who was legally carrying for shooting at the thieves that tried to rob the Walgreens he worked at, chasing them off, Hope he sues them good!
By ALAN FARNHAM Sept. 10, 2011 In Benton Township, Michigan, two armed robbers wearing masks burst into a near-deserted Walgreens at 4:30 a.m. To pharmacist Jeremy Hoven, it was a prescription for trouble. So he filled it with hot lead. A video, newly released by Hoven's attorneys, shows how events unfolded. Watch the Video Here Drawing his own gun, Hoven fired at the attackers and drove them off, saving not just himself but two Walgreens co-workers as well as the pharmacy's valuable prescription drugs. By way of saying thanks, Walgreens fired him |
What state was that in again ?
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It was in Detroit MI
abcnews.go.com The Fired Pharmacist Jeremy Hoven's Lawyer says local residents are solidly behind his client "I'd say 95 percent are in favor of what he did. It's really outraged people. Not just gun advocates but people on the street. They stop and tell me they'd have done the same thing, only they wouldn't have missed. They're outraged by what Walgreen has done. They're talking boycott, saying they will take their business to CVS or Wal-Mart." Hoven filed suit against Walgreens for wrongful termination. |
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As a Walgreens employee I can tell you that some stores are notorious for not properly training their Pharmacists about company policy.
His record may show that he signed off on the "No Weapons on Company Policy" and "Non-Escalation" Policy, even though he did not watch it, but instead a manager might have filled it out for him. Walgreens has life insurance policies on all it's Pharmacists, So the Non-escalation policy is what is best for the company and not what is best for the individual.. |
| Its about fucking time......I have about 5 friends who are pharmacists......its a crying ass shame they can not protect themselves. There should be at the very least some kind of bullet proof windows between the staff and these scum........maybe these corporate assholes should save the money it takes to print your gay no escalation rules on paper and invest in actually trying to protect your staff. |
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Blame Walgreens? What major company does not have a "no firearms on the premises" policy? Do you not think that this policy is required by their workers comp provider? By their health provider? Do you not think that their highly paid Attorney's advise them that this policy will avoid lawsuits in the future? Come on, every major employer in the U.S. has this type of policy. It ain't nothing new. BTW, if you managed thousands of employees with an average annual salary well under $30K, how many of they would you want carrying? Guys, this is the real world, not arfcom world. I'm just sayin'. |
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I dont have a ton of employees making less than 30 thousand a year passing out oxy and having absolutely no protection when someone jumps over that small counter to sucker punch the hell out of them......maybe you missed the story from about a month back where the asshole walked into a store up north and killed the pharmacist....tech....and the 17yr old female cashier.
Your right this is real world and in todays world being a pharmacist can get you shot..........they are not protected, there should be some type of bullet proff glass to protect them and at the very least be able to carry. Let me ask you....pilots are allowed to carry now right? how many times do you hear of a plane being hijacked(last time in this country I would say 9/11)........how many times do you here about some scumbag robbing a pharmacy for pills? pretty damn often around here. |
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I am with FB41, and use a small family owned pharmacy that welcomes me to carry in their store, as well as allowing employees to carry as long as they have gone through a firearms safety course.
I know most employers will not allow employees to carry, but in this state, being a pharm tech is a danged dangerous job! From what I have read many times, Walgreens has refused to address employee safety concerns-especially here in Florida which is pillbilly central. A pharmacy being robbed for oxy is almost a daily event here, and Walgreens' refusal to protect their underpaid $8 an hour employees (or allow them to protect themselves) is inexcusable. Besides-their prices absolutely suck. FWIW, small pharmacies pay their employees *much* better ($2 an hour more, usually) than the big chains, too. Yet another reason for me to patronize them besides the fact that most will price match the big chains, or even undercut their price gouging significantly. If you're not insured, those mom and pop store discounts really help and knowing that I may not end up as a pillbilly robbery casualty makes me want to give the little guy my business that much more. Eff walgreens. survivorman-well said. |
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Am I reading the statute correctly? To me it reads as though the person cannot be terminated for lawfully defending himself.
FS Chpt 790 - 790.251 (e) No public or private employer may terminate the employment of or otherwise discriminate against an employee, or expel a customer or invitee for exercising his or her constitutional right to keep and bear arms or for exercising the right of self-defense as long as a firearm is never exhibited on company property for any reason other than lawful defensive purposes.
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Am I reading the statute correctly? To me it reads as though the person cannot be terminated for lawfully defending himself. FS Chpt 790 - 790.251 (e) No public or private employer may terminate the employment of or otherwise discriminate against an employee, or expel a customer or invitee for exercising his or her constitutional right to keep and bear arms or for exercising the right of self-defense as long as a firearm is never exhibited on company property for any reason other than lawful defensive purposes. Too bad this didn't happen in Florida. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Am I reading the statute correctly? To me it reads as though the person cannot be terminated for lawfully defending himself. FS Chpt 790 - 790.251 (e) No public or private employer may terminate the employment of or otherwise discriminate against an employee, or expel a customer or invitee for exercising his or her constitutional right to keep and bear arms or for exercising the right of self-defense as long as a firearm is never exhibited on company property for any reason other than lawful defensive purposes. Too bad this didn't happen in Florida. This law applies before you sign the employment agreement that states that you will follow company policy. If you are not happy with such agreement...you are welcome to start SHOOTER'S PHARMACY. Set the policies as you wish. I work for a big company, they have some policies that I don't agree with. On the other hand, I do very well, sooo..... Like my dear Mother taught me. Pick you battles. |
| I don't care who the company is, or what they're policy is. They can not, and will never win a battle when they infringe on an Americans right to defend his own life, especially in a state that issues any sort of weapons permit. Sure, he may not be employed by them any longer, but I guarantee he will walk away with a rather large balance of money. |
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Am I reading the statute correctly? To me it reads as though the person cannot be terminated for lawfully defending himself. FS Chpt 790 - 790.251 (e) No public or private employer may terminate the employment of or otherwise discriminate against an employee, or expel a customer or invitee for exercising his or her constitutional right to keep and bear arms or for exercising the right of self-defense as long as a firearm is never exhibited on company property for any reason other than lawful defensive purposes. Too bad this didn't happen in Florida. Reading is fundamental 
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Quoted: I don't care who the company is, or what they're policy is. They can not, and will never win a battle when they infringe on an Americans right to defend his own life, especially in a state that issues any sort of weapons permit. Sure, he may not be employed by them any longer, but I guarantee he will walk away with a rather large balance of money. I'll take that bet. |
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Remember that the Jury is who needs to be convinced.
Consider that This location had been robbed before. This location did not have the standard panic button. This location did not adopt the "Over night window down approach" (like my store has) Walgreen has life insurance on all Pharmacists, so there is a conflict of interest. The Pharmacist did not truly escalate the event, as the Perp was attempting to shoot him. Walgreens has provided no proof that he complete the People Plus Learning module with the No Weapons Policy. Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, as you can plainly see by the evidence presented, Walgreens demanded that my client trust them with his life. They refused to ensure his safety and instead insure his life. He chose to obtain the means to protect himself, as he obviously needed to do, as this event proved. He followed the no escalation policy, he hid, he called the police, and only when he found himself staring down the barrel of the criminals pistol, did he act to preserve his own life. (how you think they're gonna react to that logic?) |
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Quoted: Gosh.Remember that the Jury is who needs to be convinced. Consider that This location had been robbed before. This location did not have the standard panic button. This location did not adopt the "Over night window down approach" (like my store has) Walgreen has life insurance on all Pharmacists, so there is a conflict of interest. The Pharmacist did not truly escalate the event, as the Perp was attempting to shoot him. Walgreens has provided no proof that he complete the People Plus Learning module with the No Weapons Policy. Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, as you can plainly see by the evidence presented, Walgreens demanded that my client trust them with his life. They refused to ensure his safety and instead insure his life. He chose to obtain the means to protect himself, as he obviously needed to do, as this event proved. He followed the no escalation policy, he hid, he called the police, and only when he found himself staring down the barrel of the criminals pistol, did he act to preserve his own life. (how you think they're gonna react to that logic?) I guess you're right. Walgreen's Counsel doesn't stand a chance. Lightweights. |
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4 people killed during gunman's raid of New York drugstore, scumbag just walked in and killed everyone to get the drugs.
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| As a walgreens employee I sadly have to say its company policy to not carry firearms on the property. They have that in their basic training that is given to every employee from cashier to managers etc...It sucks, and I don't agree with it. I've seen good employees fired for even less serious, more trivial, less publicity, stupid, crazy crap. Hopefully he can find employment at a place that values having some balls. |