Posted: 4/8/2010 5:29:05 PM EDT
| Ok, I am going to do the Appleseed shoot at the Hernando Sportsman's Club next week. What do I need to know, and what do I need to take with me? |
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rifle (10/22 is the norm), sighted in. Tech-sights are good, a GI sling, 3-4+ magazines
500rds ammo a cleaning kit for your gun gun oil/lube blanket/towel/shooting pad cooler w/water ( you need to pack a lunch & snacks too) BUG SPRAY & SUNSCREEN <––- Both needed at hernando! ear & eye protection asprin a hat chair pen & paper (notepad) If it looks like rain, bring rain gear... |
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AR-15 or M1A if AR-15 a .22 conversion works great. do not bring a 10/22 even with tech sights. if a 10/22 make sure it has a target weight barrel and either an optic or tech sights m14 or garand cotton sling a pad. not a blanket or carpet 300-500 rounds off ammo sight adjustment tools snap caps gatorade sun screen hat bug repellent (lota no seeums at hernando) aleive 3-4 magazines and mag loading tool |
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AR-15 or M1A if AR-15 a .22 conversion works great. do not bring a 10/22 even with tech sights. if a 10/22 make sure it has a target weight barrel and either an optic or tech sights So you're saying an AR-15 with a conversion kit shoots better than a 10/22? I don't see that. Maybe if it was a dedicated .22 upper.... |
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What to bring to an Appleseed Event
Checklist Not everything listed here is necessary. This list was compiled from the experience of those who have attended an Appleseed. It includes those things that did or would have made their experience more enjoyable. Remember that you need to bring whatever it takes to learn to shoot better. Personal items ➢ A teachable attitude (most important thing) * ➢ Elbow pads or shooting Jacket ➢ Ground cover (Rug remnant works well) ➢ A hat ➢ Little notebook (those little 2.5 X 3.5 work well) ➢ Pen ➢ Sun Screen ➢ Lots of water (Must stay hydrated) ➢ Light Lunch ➢ Snacks ➢ Folding Chair (not necessary but nice) ➢ Wet wipes ➢ Bug spray ➢ Aspirin or Ibuprofen ➢ Necessary clothing for any kind of weather ➢ Ear protection Muffs and plugs * ➢ Eye protection * ➢ Fred’s Guide to becoming a Rifleman (if you have it) Gun related stuff ➢ Rifle preferably zeroed for 25 meters ➢ 400+ rounds of the same type and brand of ammo ➢ Sight adjustment tools ➢ GI style web Sling ➢ 5 Mags unloaded if not more. 20rds works well if State law allows ➢ Gun cleaning supplies and lube ➢ Instructions for your rifle (if you have them) ➢ Know your rifle ➢ Something to cover your rifle to keep blowing sand or rain off it. ➢ Staple gun (if you already have one) ➢ Staples ➢ Know the laws of the State you are going to and only bring that which is within the law ➢ Back-up rifle (if you have one) * Very important things http://appleseedinfo.org/ |
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Start practicing getting into the Prone, Sitting (or kneeling) and standing positions now!!!! I went there thinking it would be easy to adjust, it wasnt. If your not used to holding your rifle in the prone postion it feels very odd. I adjusted very quickly but I felt it the next day.
Bring a marker or mark one of your mags now so you can spot in a quick second. You will do alot of mag changes and they will ask you load 2 mags, one with 2 rounds and one with 8 rounds. You will shoot them in sequence and need to be able to tell which mag is which in a split second. Brind a comfy, padded shooting blanchet. Double up if needed. You will be up and down all day and the concrete gets really hard on your elbows and knees. They teach you alot and ask that you bring a teachable attitude. This great but I had to do things my a little. I went there doing everything they said and shot horrble for the first half of the day. Then I took what they said and added some things that I was comfortable with (things I learned as i was growing and becoming a shooter) and stared shooting great. I qualified as rifle man after that. Make any adjustments to your rifle now. You will have very little time to change anything on it during the shoot. They are very strict that you can not touch your weapon at all until they give the comand to prepare. Make sure your sights (or in my case scope) are set for 25 yds and the eye releif is set for the prone positon. My scope was to close for prone and spent a good part of the first fight for a sight picture. I had to wait until that night to fully adjust it. Get a US military sling with the 1 1/4 swivel. With out the sling you will miss out on lerge portion of the training. I thought the whole sling thing wasnt that big of a deal until I got there and learned to use it, Wow what a difference it makes. Bring lots of watter and snacks we only 25 minutes for lunch. They tell you stories of the American Revolution diuring this time.Very cool to learn things you were not taught in scool. Have fun and good shooting. |
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yes I am saying that. the 10/22's stock is all kinds of fucked up trying to shoot prone. can you say forced draggin wood? an m1a or an ar equipped with A2 rear sight is more easily adjusted that the tech sights. an ar-15 with a .22 conversion and black dog mags feeds more reliably than a 10/22 a carbine length AR puts the sling swivel where it needs to be, so when you jam your hand into it to keep the rifle steady while slung up. it doesn't have a damn thing to do with mechanical accuracy, its ergonomics, sights, and weight. i know because I used both. I had 2 trick 10/22 carbines. tech sights, target hammers, auto bolt releases, extended mag releases. and my bushy ORC with a ciener kit and flip up BUIS was far easier to shoot and what I shot rifleman with. Quoted: Quoted: AR-15 or M1A if AR-15 a .22 conversion works great. do not bring a 10/22 even with tech sights. if a 10/22 make sure it has a target weight barrel and either an optic or tech sights So you're saying an AR-15 with a conversion kit shoots better than a 10/22? I don't see that. Maybe if it was a dedicated .22 upper.... |
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Yes, the fatory stock on a 10/22 is not very user friendly, but you cant beat the accuracy and reliablity for close range. And with allitle practice you can overcome the factory stock's short commings. It is a very good set up for an appleseed shot. From my experience, my stock 10/22 is FAR more acurate and reliable than any of my ar's with the ciener conversion kit and black dog mags. Its not even a close competion. With my stock 10/22 I can keep my groups with in 1moa @ 50YDS with out tring. With any of my AR with the kit (16" or 20") I have to fight to keep them in a 3" group and there are always a few zingers. That being said the ideal rifle for this the appleseed would be the 10/22 with ergonamics of an AR.
I went to the Appleseed shot just tring to shoot Rifleman and I figured I would use my 10/22 due to the low recoil and cheap ammo. I brought an AR as a back up just in case some thing happened to my 10/22. After shooting Riflemanwith the 10/22 I decided to try and qualify with my AR on the secound day. I didnt use my conversion due to its accuracy. Using Wolf 223 I qualified the secound day with my AR (you only get one patch though). It was easier to get into the prone position with the AR but you follow up shots are much easier with the 22. "yes I am saying that. the 10/22's stock is all kinds of fucked up trying to shoot prone. can you say forced draggin wood? an m1a or an ar equipped with A2 rear sight is more easily adjusted that the tech sights. an ar-15 with a .22 conversion and black dog mags feeds more reliably than a 10/22 a carbine length AR puts the sling swivel where it needs to be, so when you jam your hand into it to keep the rifle steady while slung up. it doesn't have a damn thing to do with mechanical accuracy, its ergonomics, sights, and weight. i know because I used both. I had 2 trick 10/22 carbines. tech sights, target hammers, auto bolt releases, extended mag releases. and my bushy ORC with a ciener kit and flip up BUIS was far easier to shoot and what I shot rifleman with." |