Posted: 12/4/2009 4:47:18 PM EDT
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What are the rules in FL regarding shooting at night to protect livestock (horses)? We have a coyote problem and one horse is injured from running around because of their presence. ETA: The reason why I ask about night shooting is because this is the only time they are coming out. We have lost two dogs to coyotes and neighbors have lost cats and dogs to them. So far, one coyote that I know of has been shot by one of my neighbors but was shot during the day time. |
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Quoted: Eh, I would rather not. Most of my neighbors are cops  If I do anything, I want it to be 100% legal. So ask one of your 'neighbors' what they would do. Do you live inside city limits? If not, I'll bet that predators and varmints are always in season. Sorta like Rattlers. |
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I don't live inside city limits. Quoted: Ask them? I never assume that cops know the law. One of my friends is a volunteer fire fighter (working on becoming hired by the county) and hangs out with the cops when they are cleaning up a fire or car crash. He talks firearms with them and they tell him some of the most idiotic and illegal stuff. And they claim it to be perfectly legal. |
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Coyotes are Furbearers, they can be hunted year round.
You need a hunting license, don't use a light at night, Five round mag for semi-auto.. Posted relivant info below straight from FWC's web site. Prohibited Methods Centerfire semi-automatic rifles having ■ magazine capacities of more than five rounds ■ Fully automatic or silencer-equipped firearms ■ Explosive or drug-injecting arrows ■ Taking or attempting to take game with live decoys, recorded game calls or sounds, set guns, artificial lights, nets, traps, snares, drugs or poisons ■ Shooting from vehicles, powerboats or sailboats moving under power. Motors must be shut off or sails furled, and the vessel’s progress must cease from such motor or sail before hunters may shoot wildlife. ■ Herding or driving wildlife with vehicles, boats or aircraft ■ Hunting with bows equipped with sights or aiming devices with electronic computational capabilities or light projection (laser) features during archery season ■ Hunting resident game using bows and crossbows with draw weights less than 35 pounds ■ Placing, exposing or distributing soporific, anesthetic, tranquilizer, hypnotic or similar drugs or chemicals; preparation by baits; or by other means where game birds or game animals may be affected, unless authorized by permit from the FWC executive director Furbearer hunting regulations Hunters taking furbearers with firearms or dogs for sporting purposes must possess hunting licenses or other licenses that include hunting privileges, unless exempt. These licenses do not authorize the sale of furbearing mammals or taking furbearing mammals with live traps or snares. Trapping licenses are required to sell furbearing animals or when using live traps or snares in taking them. Open season: Raccoons, opossums, skunks, nutrias, beavers and coyotes can be livetrapped, taken with snares or hunted with dogs and firearms year-round. |
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I'm not sure if they would fall under hunting regulations since I am protecting horses which would be property/livestock. I'll have to give FWC a call on Monday. ETA: I would not need a hunting license since this is on my property. I do have my hunter safety class certificate though, so if FWC says I need a hunting license for some reason I can get one ASAP. |
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Coyotes are a non-native specie in FL & can be shot anytime, with suppressors, game calls, electronic decoys,etc. If you are going to use a light at night you are supposed to get a permit, but was recently strreamlined & can do it instantly online now. You just fill out your property & personal info & print out the permit. You are supposed to call the local FWC office & tell the dispatcher when you are going to hunt. The first time I did it the girl acted pturbed that I called her. I just do what I gotta do now & will deal with an officer if I ever see one. They hate them too, though.
Here's a little info from UF: Florida Coyotes |
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Quoted: If you have neighbors within a 1/4 mile then use a shotgun with high brass BB, # 2 or # 4 shot . If I could get them close enough. Coyotes are smart and have pretty good sniffers. I would have to bait them on the property which is illegal to do. They have to come onto the property on their own accord in order to blast them to Valhalla. |
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I don't live inside city limits. Quoted:
Ask them? I never assume that cops know the law. One of my friends is a volunteer fire fighter (working on becoming hired by the county) and hangs out with the cops when they are cleaning up a fire or car crash. He talks firearms with them and they tell him some of the most idiotic and illegal stuff. And they claim it to be perfectly legal.
True, never assume anything. The first thing they teach you in law school. But if you neighbors are having problems as well, and they don't care. Who is gonna call the pd? |
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So whats keeping you from starting a compost pile where you dump all your leftover steak & bacon scraps to make fertilizer for the azaleas?  Who the fuck leaves bacon scraps. 
Anyway, if you cannot bait them why not start breeding some free range chickens. 
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Quoted: Who the fuck leaves bacon scraps. Anyway, if you cannot bait them why not start breeding some free range chickens. I have to agree with you... I never leave any bacon scraps  Let me put it this way... If I was a FWC officer, I would probably ask this question... "So Hendricks5150, when did you get said chickens and start your compost pile? ... .. . .. . . .. So only a little bit ago... You know, that sounds suspicious. It kinda' sounds like you started the compost pile and raising the chickens just to bait the coyotes. I might have to take you down town for some questioning" Anyways, speaking of chickens. We have this crazy neighbor that believes that all of the neighbors dogs are eating his chickens and shoots any neighbors dog he sees near or on his property... The man hasn't had chickens for 10 years... I don't think the thought has crossed his mind that maybe it was a coyote or a fox. Both are very common out here and I hardly doubt a Yorkie (a neighbor had theirs go missing a few years ago) that is scared of anything and everything would have the sand to go up against a flock of chickens. Then again, it might have been a coyote that picked up their Yorkie. But I remember there was a bunch of talk about gunfire that was coming from his area the night before the dog was reported missing. The guy also has gotten his disability taken away after saying that he can't move much farther from his house. An investigator came out and filmed him walking about absolutely fine and chopping fire wood with ease. He also is one of the "smartest" people I have ever known... He sits on his front porch smoking and breathing through his oxygen mask/tank  Puff... Hit... Puff... Hit... |
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Straight from the FWC site
Should answer all of your questions. FWIW, we hunt nuisance coyotes on private property north of Plant City, year round., and at all different times, including at night. |
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Straight from the FWC site Should answer all of your questions. FWIW, we hunt nuisance coyotes on private property north of Plant City, year round., and at all different times, including at night. Need another shooter? I'm very local. |
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I have never seen anyone inside city limits to have enough property for livestock (horses). Do what you gotta do. Just sayin... What the hell does "city limits" have to do with any of this?? You cannot discharge a firearm within city limits wanna bet on that? 
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If you are within city limits, don't do it. If you have a nuisance coyote, call animal control. They most likely will set traps for it. Or, you can set a live trap yourself with some tasty viddles inside. I catch all kinds of critters here. How do you find out if your in city limits? This was always a mystery to me since every address has a city in it. |
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If you are within city limits, don't do it. If you have a nuisance coyote, call animal control. They most likely will set traps for it. Or, you can set a live trap yourself with some tasty viddles inside. I catch all kinds of critters here. How do you find out if your in city limits? This was always a mystery to me since every address has a city in it. read the post above you... FL does not matter. I wish you guys would learn our laws. It helps to keep the bullshit and ignorance to an acceptable level. 790.33 FL statutes. Read it, know it... understand it dammit. |
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Sounds like you need a couple of game catch dogs to confront the vagrant! David PS... I have the # for a Capt in FWC at work. I'll see if I can find it. ETA http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=289 Gamo Whisper .22 
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I doubt that a Gamo pellet gun would be able to drop a Coyote. They are hearty little buggers that will live on even if wounded. |
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If you are within city limits, don't do it. If you have a nuisance coyote, call animal control. They most likely will set traps for it. Or, you can set a live trap yourself with some tasty viddles inside. I catch all kinds of critters here. How do you find out if your in city limits? This was always a mystery to me since every address has a city in it. read the post above you... FL does not matter. I wish you guys would learn our laws. It helps to keep the bullshit and ignorance to an acceptable level. 790.33 FL statutes. Read it, know it... understand it dammit. Let me see if i understand this correctly. Even if an ordinance to prohibit the discharge of firearms in City limits were present, it would be preempted by section 790.33 FL Statutes. Basically meaning local governments have no authority to regulate firearms in any manner. In other words i can discharge a firearm in my back yard as long as its per Section 790.15 Florida Statutes. Did i get that right or am i missing something? |
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