[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Concealed Carry Permits Backlogged (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/18/2009 6:09:27 PM EDT
| Read an article today in the Miami Herald that there are over 65,000 concealed weapon permit applications sitting in Tallahassee, and they do not have any funds left in their budget to process them. Anyone waiting on a permit shouldn't expect it anytime soon. I am sure that the state is spending money on much more important issues such as welfare and community improvements in certain areas. |
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hopefully this helps:
02/19/2009
FIREARMS Florida can't keep up with concealed weapon permit requests The state greenlighted funds to hire 61 workers to tackle a backlog of concealed-weapons permit applications. BY STEVE BOUSQUET Herald/Times Tallahassee Bureau TALLAHASSEE –– Floridians in record numbers want to carry concealed weapons, a trend linked to a surge in crime, economic anxiety and fears of stricter gun laws. The state is buried under a backlog of 95,000 applications for concealed-weapons permits and it needs to hire a lot more people to handle the paperwork. A legislative panel Wednesday gave Agriculture Commissioner Charles Bronson the OK to spend $3.9 million more so he can hire 61 temporary workers. ''Once the economy gets bad, crime always goes up,'' said Bronson, a police officer. ``People get desperate whenever things are not going the way they feel like they should be going, and they'll do things they normally wouldn't do.'' The state reported a surge in applications in November after the election of President Barack Obama, who in the past has advocated stricter gun control laws but who also campaigned as a defender of Second Amendment rights. Florida received 75,679 first-time concealed-weapon permit applications in 2007 and 86,269 in 2008, in addition to tens of thousands of renewal forms. About 541,000 Floridians have permits for concealed weapons. Nationwide, retailers report a surge in sales of firearms in recent months. Some Florida stores have run out of ammunition. As applications for gun permits stack up, the state has reported a spike in phone calls from impatient applicants, and at least 140 large tubs in a Tallahassee office building are filled with unprocessed applications. FEES TO PAY SALARIES By law, the state must process permit applications within 90 days. A permit is valid for seven years and costs $117, which includes a $44 fee for state and federal background checks and a set of fingerprints. The money to hire new employees comes from fees paid by applicants, not from general tax dollars. Adding to the backlog of applications is that the state gives a priority to renewal forms, to avoid cases of gun owners unknowingly having their permits expire or to catch cases in which permit holders have broken the law. Asked about the surge in gun permit applications, Gov. Charlie Crist said: ``I'm pro-gun. I think people ought to have the right to protect themselves, and if people want to get new certificates, that's their constitutional right . . . If they use those instruments responsibly and prudently and within the bounds of the law, everything should be fine.'' The state senator in Crist's hometown of St. Petersburg disagreed. ''More guns is never a good thing, especially in an urban area,'' said Sen. Charlie Justice. ``There are very few areas of our city that have not been touched by gun violence.'' Bronson said it's a positive thing that people would seek to legally own a concealed weapon. ``That's the reason why people get concealed weapons, so that if they are threatened with their life they can defend themselves and their family and their property. And this is the right way to do it.'' `BECAUSE OF FEAR' At Jet's Florida Outdoors store in Westchester, which sells guns, sales clerk Chris McCarthy said people are buying the weapons because of the economy but also because they're afraid of a possible crackdown on gun ownership under the Obama administration. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/910739.html |
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Well I'm good till 5/2011 but my friend has to send his in this month for renewal. I agree that the "out of money" excuses is BS when we are paying $100+ dollars, maybe it is just so when they raise it by $100 dollars later "to make the process faster" people won't complain as much.
I looked up the 90 days: (c) The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services shall, within 90 days after the date of receipt of the items listed in subsection (5): 1. Issue the license; or 2. Deny the application based solely on the ground that the applicant fails to qualify under the criteria listed in subsection (2) or subsection (3). If the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services denies the application, it shall notify the applicant in writing, stating the ground for denial and informing the applicant of any right to a hearing pursuant to chapter 120. 3. In the event the department receives criminal history information with no final disposition on a crime which may disqualify the applicant, the time limitation prescribed by this paragraph may be suspended until receipt of the final disposition or proof of restoration of civil and firearm rights. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0790/SEC06.HTM&Title=->2008->Ch0790->Section%2006#0790.06 790.06 Part 6c Anybody past 90 days called up and reminded them of the law? ETA: Just read the article article above and "Adding to the backlog of applications is that the state gives a priority to renewal forms, to avoid cases of gun owners unknowingly having their permits expire or to catch cases in which permit holders have broken the law." I'm glad they process renewals first, I just hope they send the notices out early enough based on their backlog (or atleast 90 days). |
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hopefully this helps: 02/19/2009
FIREARMS Florida can't keep up with concealed weapon permit requests The state greenlighted funds to hire 61 workers to tackle a backlog of concealed-weapons permit applications. BY STEVE BOUSQUET Herald/Times Tallahassee Bureau TALLAHASSEE –– Floridians in record numbers want to carry concealed weapons, a trend linked to a surge in crime, economic anxiety and fears of stricter gun laws. The state is buried under a backlog of 95,000 applications for concealed-weapons permits and it needs to hire a lot more people to handle the paperwork. A legislative panel Wednesday gave Agriculture Commissioner Charles Bronson the OK to spend $3.9 million more so he can hire 61 temporary workers. ''Once the economy gets bad, crime always goes up,'' said Bronson, a police officer. ``People get desperate whenever things are not going the way they feel like they should be going, and they'll do things they normally wouldn't do.'' The state reported a surge in applications in November after the election of President Barack Obama, who in the past has advocated stricter gun control laws but who also campaigned as a defender of Second Amendment rights. Florida received 75,679 first-time concealed-weapon permit applications in 2007 and 86,269 in 2008, in addition to tens of thousands of renewal forms. About 541,000 Floridians have permits for concealed weapons. Nationwide, retailers report a surge in sales of firearms in recent months. Some Florida stores have run out of ammunition. As applications for gun permits stack up, the state has reported a spike in phone calls from impatient applicants, and at least 140 large tubs in a Tallahassee office building are filled with unprocessed applications. FEES TO PAY SALARIES By law, the state must process permit applications within 90 days. A permit is valid for seven years and costs $117, which includes a $44 fee for state and federal background checks and a set of fingerprints. The money to hire new employees comes from fees paid by applicants, not from general tax dollars. Adding to the backlog of applications is that the state gives a priority to renewal forms, to avoid cases of gun owners unknowingly having their permits expire or to catch cases in which permit holders have broken the law. Asked about the surge in gun permit applications, Gov. Charlie Crist said: ``I'm pro-gun. I think people ought to have the right to protect themselves, and if people want to get new certificates, that's their constitutional right . . . If they use those instruments responsibly and prudently and within the bounds of the law, everything should be fine.'' The state senator in Crist's hometown of St. Petersburg disagreed. ''More guns is never a good thing, especially in an urban area,'' said Sen. Charlie Justice. ``There are very few areas of our city that have not been touched by gun violence.'' Bronson said it's a positive thing that people would seek to legally own a concealed weapon. ``That's the reason why people get concealed weapons, so that if they are threatened with their life they can defend themselves and their family and their property. And this is the right way to do it.'' `BECAUSE OF FEAR' At Jet's Florida Outdoors store in Westchester, which sells guns, sales clerk Chris McCarthy said people are buying the weapons because of the economy but also because they're afraid of a possible crackdown on gun ownership under the Obama administration. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/910739.html 95,000 applications x $117 in fees = $11,150,000 not $3,900,000. Where's the rest going ???????? |
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My October students got theirs this month. So far I have noticed their licenses are arriving 90 days + give or take 1 to 2 weeks after the State cashed their check I came up with that number because I averaged how long it took my students to recieve the CWP.
An interesting note is that the electronic finger prints took the same time to process than the good old paper ink FP's. Sucks for the people that pay extra for those 
Hope that helps, 223SAINT |
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Read an article today in the Miami Herald that there are over 65,000 concealed weapon permit applications sitting in Tallahassee, and they do not have any funds left in their budget to process them. Anyone waiting on a permit shouldn't expect it anytime soon. I am sure that the state is spending money on much more important issues such as welfare and community improvements in certain areas. This is shitty, but true. I called on mine today and I told her I heard there was a backlog, she asked me to hold and confirmed when she came back that they are in fact running as much as 60 additional days. I tried the state statute thing and she said they have 90 days AFTER the application review is complete to get your permit to you. BS man. |
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I heard this story on NPR this morning ... It was followed by another story that discussed the rise in homicides in 2008 but also said:
For the first weeks of 2009, homicides are down 40 percent compared with the same time period last year...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/story/910706.html I hope it stays this way so that we can give credit for the drop to more armed residents. |
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Wouldn't it be a hoot if some of the Kenyan's stimulus money went to hire more people to help process the backlog.  The state reported a surge in applications in November after the election of President Barack Obama, who in the past has advocated stricter gun control laws but who also campaigned as a defender of Second Amendment rights. Florida received 75,679 first-time concealed-weapon permit applications in 2007 and 86,269 in 2008, in addition to tens of thousands of renewal forms. About 541,000 Floridians have permits for concealed weapons. He should be all for it then right? It is creating new jobs 
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I was listening to a story about this on AM650 this morning in Jax, and they said that some of the budget from ccw licensing was going to be transferd to food stamp program because they are getting backlogged. I don't know for sure that I heard this correctly but it would not supprise me at all.
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I was listening to a story about this on AM650 this morning in Jax, and they said that some of the budget from ccw licensing was going to be transferd to food stamp program because they are getting backlogged. I don't know for sure that I heard this correctly but it would not supprise me at all.This had better be some sort of a joke they playing. If not WOW!!!!!!! |
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I concur. Glad I got my CWP late last year, after dragging my feet - the Obamaturds pushed me over the edge to apply. It took eleven weeks with the electronic fingerprints. Fantastic that the citizens are arming themselves. Finally. Almost sounds like preparations for a militia. And you can be sure that there are even more applications to come. Good thing they are ramping up the workers, and I think the radio blurb was BS ... if not, it is a very sad thing that pisses me the F off. Where is this revolution, and where can I sign up? Taxpayer funded, military training should not be wasted.  |
| Sent mine mid Nov. After 90 days I called and was told it had been processed and turned over to the FBI for final background check. I couldn't get any time frame but hopefully it comes soon. I wish I would have paid the $75 for digital finger printing, I heard it speeds things up. |
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hello everyone ! Man do I feel your pain I am going through it right now myself . Three months plus just to get our licenses is absurd. I mailed mine in Feb 9th , called em today, after about 30 minutes of being on hold and listenin to the looped recording, they got on the phone and within 15 seconds said " oh it doesnt even show up in our d-base until 2 months " Im like what kind service is that ? Not to mention we still have to worry about the fact that the app might get denied on bad prints. Well Im hopin they see my dd214 and check my prints on the afis system Ive only ran my prints through fbi about 5 times ......... lol those guys at doacs better get their acts togethers or theyre gonna get a phone call from me everyday......... ( ok i might be a little obsessed but I wanted to share the info that they told me ) much love everyone
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My renewal paperwork was delivered (confirmed) Feb. 2, 2009. My $65 check was cashed Mar. 13, 2009. Don't think they are gonna make the expiration date on my current license with that timeliness. I had called to get my renewal paperwork sent out to me last November, and was told it would be sent out at a pre-determined date, which ended up being 2nd week of January.
Oh well, gov. wheels in motion... |
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Must have gotten lucky mine took less than 1 month. Came in the mail today. Did you by any chance use a postal money order rather than a personal check ? Here's how it went for my fiancee: Received by them during the first week of December as per the post office; registered mail, receipt requested. Permit issued February 7; she's pissed because her picture is distorted and makes her look like some sort of criminal. 
Electronic prints and postal money order sent registered mail, receipt requested. |
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My permit expires on 05-04-2009. I sent the renewal on 02-24-2009. Got the new permit today. The new permit is good till 05-14-2016.
What was the process and cost for the renewal, I still have time since mine expires in 2011.... They send you a renewal application a couple months before your exp. date. You fill it out, have it notarised and send it off with $65. I sent my renewal in March 2nd, it exp. on April 14. Looks liek a good chance it may not arrive by then. |
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A passport photo, renewal application and $65.00. That's all. Forgot the new picture too. I just walked out to check the mail and my new License was the only thing in there. I`m GTG until April 2016. With some of yalls stories I figured it would be a long wait. Only a month from sent to recieved. I don`t remember what my last renewal was. My first application was 90 days to the day before I got it. |