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3/1/2008 8:01:21 PM EDT
Ok,,, so yes I learned a SHITLOAD today... including what I am and am NOT capable of! I am Soooooooooooo soar I can't even express it. Granted this is the 1st class I have ever taken, but after 12+ hours of INTENSE work, I can say this... I learned more today in 12 hours than I have over the last 20 years! Wade is a fanatic about form and function. Everything I learned today made more sense than anything I have have ever heard... from ANYONE. For those taking the class in S. Fl in a couple weeks... be warned. You will use muscles you never knew you had

With that said... Never 2nd guess taking his class. He is a consummate professional and what he teaches makes real world sense. Shooting paper is one thing... shooting as if your life depends on it... everything you've learned goes out the window! Wade will give you a new perspective for saving you life and that of others.

More to come... I've had to take 2 Somas and 3 Lortab I hurt so bad. He will also make you rethink the use of slings for real life situations too. My hat's off you Wade!

New respect for S. African MIL/Police training,
David


edited for perscription narcotic spelling.
3/1/2008 8:27:26 PM EDT
[#1]
good to hear.  
3/2/2008 3:00:32 AM EDT
[#2]
Hearing this makes me even more pissed I missed it. Are they having any more classes in NE/Central FL?
3/2/2008 4:06:47 AM EDT
[#3]
i'm still kind of pissed i'll be up at the in-laws all next weekend
3/2/2008 5:00:39 AM EDT
[#4]
Ok... so there's no confusion, MAKE SURE TO STAY HYDRATED!!!! I am unable to complete the 2nd day. My tailbone is brused and my quads are so cramped and knotted I can't (well barely) walk. Could I have gone and tried to finish... yes. But doing so could have put someone else at risk... and I'm not willing to do that for a peice of paper. I spoke to Wade this morning and he completely understood the safely issue.

So my best advise to those getting ready for his class is... Stretch out the nights leading up to it, the night before, and if possible the morning of. Also, and this is I think the biggest one... as hot as it gets here in Fl., guys you HAVE TO STAY HYDRATED to avoid cramping up!

Let the "Whimp" comments fly. Just remember I control the flow of Team Florida shirts.  


David
3/2/2008 5:52:09 AM EDT
[#5]
wimp

no worries, i get wore out just playing outside with the kid these days.
3/2/2008 6:04:27 AM EDT
[#6]
WOW, take care of yourself David.  Good to hear the class was so intense and worthwhile.  I only hope this old fart can keep up.

(ducks as the old fart comments from Omi begin to fly)

3/2/2008 6:55:28 AM EDT
[#7]
Dave,

the important thing to remember is you got some training...One or two valuabe lessons you took home.. It sucks to be old ..Water is our friend...
and we could all be in better shape...

Next time you'll know what to expect....nice job dude..
3/2/2008 11:33:05 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Ok... so there's no confusion, MAKE SURE TO STAY HYDRATED!!!! I am unable to complete the 2nd day. My tailbone is brused and my quads are so cramped and knotted I can't (well barely) walk. Could I have gone and tried to finish... yes. But doing so could have put someone else at risk... and I'm not willing to do that for a peice of paper. I spoke to Wade this morning and he completely understood the safely issue.

So my best advise to those getting ready for his class is... Stretch out the nights leading up to it, the night before, and if possible the morning of. Also, and this is I think the biggest one... as hot as it gets here in Fl., guys you HAVE TO STAY HYDRATED to avoid cramping up!

Let the "Whimp" comments fly. Just remember I control the flow of Team Florida shirts.  


David


Man this sucks -- Since I live closest to MiamiARFan this means I'm going to have to carry his old ass home Saturday and explain to ManBearPig why she will have to put him in a assisted living facility .....

3/2/2008 12:06:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Well, that took waaaaaaaay longer than I expected.  
3/2/2008 2:07:42 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Well, that took waaaaaaaay longer than I expected.  


lol, you know I love you man -- your my teammate so you know Im not letting you fall behind ...
3/2/2008 3:56:27 PM EDT
[#11]
good to know

Mike
3/2/2008 4:33:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Lars, just get your "Sweatin to the Oldies" VHS out and do some exercises this week, and you'll be fine.  

Me, I'm mostly concerned that I'll break a nail.  
3/2/2008 4:51:33 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Me, I'm mostly concerned that I'll break a nail.  


Typical Airforce homosexual stuff ...  
3/2/2008 4:53:25 PM EDT
[#14]
hehe look like you need to get off that couch and get out to the beach to run with me
3/2/2008 5:07:04 PM EDT
[#15]
Too bad you didn't show up today to at least watch, it was even better than yesterday! I can barely move myself and I'm not that old. Still trying to obsorb all the great info. I am ready for more of Wades classes. Pistol class coming up next.
3/2/2008 5:19:27 PM EDT
[#16]
wimp!

I will usually chime in to those threads where people say I have X amount of dollars... what should I get. My reply is usuall, "take a class". There are many more good instructors out there these days than 10 years ago. Taking a class from a good instructor will teach you many things.

I try to get out there and take at least a couple classes per year. The best of them will push you to your limits. A good class will teach you not only about shooting, but through the course of the class you'll proably learn a good bit about your gear, your guns, and best of all, yourself.

Hope you can make it to more classes. They are the most fun I have with my firearms all year.
3/3/2008 6:35:30 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Me, I'm mostly concerned that I'll break a nail.  


Typical Airforce homosexual stuff ...  


you're such an oxymoron, Omi.  You can't put "typical," "Air Force," and "homosexual" in the same sentence, because they're mutually exclusive.  Homosexuality just wasn't typical in the AF...unlike YOUR branch, where it's actually one of the recruiting incentives...
3/3/2008 2:28:03 PM EDT
[#18]
David,

I hope you recover soon. I am proud of you for coming to the training and for sticking it out. It will definitely make you aware of your down falls and hopefully teach you how to prevail in any situation.

Taken from our website on the Defensive Carbine page:

"This is an intense class due to the nature of it's contents and will be very demanding on
each student. Our range drills will include some endurance testing and physical fitness
doctrine which will definitely be challenging to some students."

It is not a basic course, nor is it an intermediate or an advanced course. It is exactly what it says, a defensive carbine class but consists of advanced doctrine.

I hope to see you back at the next carbine class David and once again, thanks for having an open mind to new training and for the compliments.
3/3/2008 2:46:24 PM EDT
[#19]
Sounds like I should bring my stunt double.
3/3/2008 3:06:36 PM EDT
[#20]
Absolutely incredible class.  I will be writing a detailed review this week, but I just wanted to make a couple quick comments.

Please, don't hesitate to sign up for this class.  You will NOT be disappointed.  

1)If you're a badass that knows everything, you will be humbled!
2)If you're an advanced shooter, will polish up on the basics and certainly learn some new tricks.
3)If you're a beginner, you will gain a knowledge base that will aid in your future advancement.  You will gain the confidence necessary to want to learn more.  This confidence will be based on knowing that you can utilize your rifle proficiently.  

My uncle who attended the class this weekend said the class changed his thinking completely.  He actually commented to me that he would never be the same.  

Lastly:  $300 is a joke compared to what you bring home from this class!  This is like someone selling a new Colt 6920 online for $300.  I will be attending the Pistol class in May, as well as whatever else I can fit into my schedule this year.  


Full review will be coming soon.
3/3/2008 3:13:55 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
[you're such an oxymoron, Omi.  You can't put "typical," "Air Force," and "homosexual" in the same sentence, because they're mutually exclusive.  Homosexuality just wasn't typical in the AF...unlike YOUR branch, where it's actually one of the recruiting incentives...



3/3/2008 3:55:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Did I mention that I had a GREAT time?!?! This class also taught me I can't wait to magically get back into shape. I look forward to the pistol course, $ allowing. And the completion of the carbine course.

I am feeling a bit better. I had to see the LPN to read a TB test (required to work @ a hospital) and when she saw me gimpin' in, her 1st question was... "What ran over you?"

I replied "Wade". She told me that from getting dehydrated the lactic acid built up in the largest muscle group... my quadriceps. She said it would be 3-5 days before it worked its way out of my tissue.

Learning the sensible/practical way to move posture and shoot has made me want to learn more.


David
3/3/2008 4:03:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Hope to see you at the pistol course David.  

I think everyone, including myself, has learned just how important physical fitness is to survival in a life/death situation!  


3/3/2008 4:32:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Physical fitness is always an advantage, but I have been to some very demanding multi day classes with people who were very overweight, and a couple times with people who were just plain elderly, Im talking in their 70's, and they went the distance. These are guys who train if not regularly, than at least annualy, and have been taking classes for years. They do what they can do, and dont push themselves beyond their physical abilities. No instructor I have been to has demanded more of them, I cant imagine any experienced instructor doing so.

But you will know what your limits are before they do. I doubt instructors will be able to gauge if you are pushing yourselves too far before you can. In time they will likely pick up on it, but not before you. Dont let the fact that you may not be as nimble, in shape or otherwise physically fit the next guy stop you from doing the best you can do. If you cant run it, jog it. If you cant jog it, walk it. If you cant prone behind that cover, just get behind it. If you do get down and cant get up as quickly, take your time.

But got out there and get some training. Dont judge yourself next to the others in the class. Judge yourself based on what you knew about you and your shooting before the class, and then after.

Sorry I missed this class. I hope to get to one of Wade's classes in the future.
3/4/2008 3:24:25 AM EDT
[#25]
Its always insteresting to see the comments/posts of people who take their first formal training, and especially from a good instructor. The comments generally tend to be the same though.

To piggyback on what New-arguy said, just do the best you can (regarding the physical aspect), especially if its your first class, keeping safety in mind. Then, use it as a gauge to see where you are, where you want to be, and what you can do to get there.
3/4/2008 9:12:59 AM EDT
[#26]
Just thought I would give my review of the class in the Training forum. Hope I placed it properly.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=9&f=19&t=226028&page=1
3/4/2008 11:37:59 AM EDT
[#27]
Nice Review
3/4/2008 6:10:55 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Nice Review


X2 -- WTG --  I cant wait for this weekend ...
3/4/2008 7:10:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Last several months have been nuts! I went to a Morrigan Consulting (Bill Jeans) class in Novemeber, will be going to a Magpul Training Division class weekend after next, and then another EAG (Pat Rogers) class the weekend after that. Lots of shooting, lots of fun. Had I not already been signed up for these classes I would have been to this Bushido class. Sorry I missed it but looking forward to what I do have planned!