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Posted: 3/18/2009 8:17:22 AM EDT
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Why can a rifle not be converted to a pistol as the opposite can be done. I am trying to figue out why I cant put
a pistol butt plate on my mp5 clone and remove the fake silencer. What I am trying to accomplish is keeping all my clones legal when my sear pack is in one and not the others. What is the quickest easiest way to do this. |
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Why can a rifle not be converted to a pistol as the opposite can be done. I am trying to figue out why I cant put a pistol butt plate on my mp5 clone and remove the fake silencer. What I am trying to accomplish is keeping all my clones legal when my sear pack is in one and not the others. What is the quickest easiest way to do this. Wow.....you do know there is a whole section here dedicated to this... Now before the flames! This is the VERY short answer - you cannot do what you list. A rifle cannot change from the barrel length making it shorter than the required 16" or you create a SBR (short barrel rifle)...which requires a paid tax stamp before doing so. You can add a stock to a pistol...but not before you create a SBR and pay the tax before you do so. The sear pack will have its own stamp once you add the registered sear or receiver. That has NOTHING to do with what you do to the host. The reasons why will never make sense but they are the rules and have been for some time now. If you want to make your head hurt...Google "NFA" and read the whole handbook. Here...http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/index.htm I'll save you time. Now by all means...if you like going to jail...add and remove what you want and build what you like...just remember you were told that it was wrong! Echo |
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Why can a rifle not be converted to a pistol as the opposite can be done. I am trying to figue out why I cant put a pistol butt plate on my mp5 clone and remove the fake silencer. What I am trying to accomplish is keeping all my clones legal when my sear pack is in one and not the others. What is the quickest easiest way to do this. The answer is quite simple. Pistolas are much more evil than rifles and require additional registration/classification. If we allowed people to buy rifles and then convert them into pistolas, the very fabric of the time/space continuum would unravel at the seams. Conversely, taking a pistola and converting it to a much safer rifle is greatly increasing the goodness of it, thereby making it much safer and likable... so that's why anyone can convert a pistola to a rifle freely, as long as they make sure the barrel is over 16". |
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Why can a rifle not be converted to a pistol as the opposite can be done. I am trying to figue out why I cant put a pistol butt plate on my mp5 clone and remove the fake silencer. What I am trying to accomplish is keeping all my clones legal when my sear pack is in one and not the others. What is the quickest easiest way to do this. The answer is quite simple. Pistolas are much more evil than rifles and require additional registration/classification. If we allowed people to buy rifles and then convert them into pistolas, the very fabric of the time/space continuum would unravel at the seams. Conversely, taking a pistola and converting it to a much safer rifle is greatly increasing the goodness of it, thereby making it much safer and likable... so that's why anyone can convert a pistola to a rifle freely, as long as they make sure the barrel is over 16". Now that is what I meant......what the hell does the BATFE know about cosmic rift they cause by messing with the Zen of the way of the gun!! I wondered how long before you showed up Retro... |
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The sear pack will have its own stamp once you add the registered sear or receiver. That has NOTHING to do with what you do to the host. The reasons why will never make sense but they are the rules and have been for some time now. If you want to make your head hurt...Google "NFA" and read the whole handbook. Here...http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/index.htm I'll save you time. Now by all means...if you like going to jail...add and remove what you want and build what you like...just remember you were told that it was wrong! Echo Just to make sure with my sear pack installed those laws do not apply. When it is legally a machine gun it can now have a stock and sbr length. |
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The sear pack will have its own stamp once you add the registered sear or receiver. That has NOTHING to do with what you do to the host. The reasons why will never make sense but they are the rules and have been for some time now. If you want to make your head hurt...Google "NFA" and read the whole handbook. Here...http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/index.htm I'll save you time. Now by all means...if you like going to jail...add and remove what you want and build what you like...just remember you were told that it was wrong! Echo Just to make sure with my sear pack installed those laws do not apply. When it is legally a machine gun it can now have a stock and sbr length. Apple and orange... A sear pack is installed in a lower. If it is a dedicated, registered and stamped lower, that is one issue...but it is most likely the sear that is registered. I will bet you do not have a machine gun but post a picture and show me wrong. If you choose to have a shorter than 16" barrel, you then ALSO have a SBR which will also have its own registration and stamp. Sear packs can be removed and used on different hosts...unless you have a registered receiver. For HK style weapons, unless you have a pre-86, you have a modified trigger pack...thus no swinging front pin but a shelf. Now if you have a MG, you are correct and that determiniation is the big daddy meaning you can change the rest. When in doubt, go over to the Class 3 section and get a hold of Tony K...he will set you on the right path. Echo |
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No I have a registered sear. I I know my current gun is totally legit. I didnt recieve my sear from my dealer until
my form arrived. My question applies more to my other clones that I would like to move my sear around to. I researched the class III laws as they apply to my sear gun but not about using the sear pack in other hosts. That is what I am trying to accomplish. Moving my sear around. |
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When the sear pack is installed I do not need a stamp for the foregrip and stock on a pistol? No - machine gun status trumps all. When the sear pack is not installed the gun must return to 16" non sbr status? That's correct. Thank you, that is the answer I needed. |
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