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1/9/2008 12:36:13 PM EDT
Hello all, I am new to the HK rifles so please bear with me if these questions sound dumb. So please school in these weapons...
I am looking at a MP5 clone...Which one? Which one to stay away from??? Why??
Are Bobcat SW5's any good. What should I look for?? Will HK parts interchange, say later on I decide to SBR.    Where would I find the proper barrel and have it switched.  Thanks Guys
1/9/2008 12:52:14 PM EDT
[#1]
IMO the Coharie guns are the current "state of the art" in clones today.

HK factory parts will fit.

As to a barrel ..  RCM would be my choice - https://www.rimcountrymfg.com/guns.htm#guns

1/9/2008 2:47:49 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
IMO the Coharie guns are the current "state of the art" in clones today.

HK factory parts will fit.

As to a barrel ..  RCM would be my choice - https://www.rimcountrymfg.com/guns.htm#guns



Isn't Coharie the Bobcat company under a new name? I thought I read somewhere that they changed their name.
1/9/2008 3:32:27 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
IMO the Coharie guns are the current "state of the art" in clones today.

HK factory parts will fit.

As to a barrel ..  RCM would be my choice - https://www.rimcountrymfg.com/guns.htm#guns



Isn't Coharie the Bobcat company under a new name? I thought I read somewhere that they changed their name.


No, Coharie used to be Special Weapons, they changed the name to Coharie Arms.  These have been pretty good guns, as of recently.  They are supposed to be getting out of the HK clone business, better get one while you can!  I am anxiously awaiting a CA89k, supposed to be about 2 weeks out and also supposed to be their last batch-but we'll see if that holds true.  Kinda like when a rock band is on a "farewell tour"-good way to sell out the concerts and turns out that they tour again.  Who knows?

Edited to add: Bobcat used to get their parts for their builds from Special Weapons/Coharie Arms, but they had a "falling-out" and Bobcat stopped making the MP5 style guns.
1/9/2008 3:41:00 PM EDT
[#4]
Bobcat is now Red Rock Arms. I have a Bobcat 89. HK parts will fit it and the only thing I had to do was change the extractor spring. Ever since then I have run it with no problems at all.
1/9/2008 4:56:06 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Hello all, I am new to the HK rifles so please bear with me if these questions sound dumb. So please school in these weapons...
I am looking at a MP5 clone...Which one? Which one to stay away from??? Why??
Are Bobcat SW5's any good. What should I look for?? Will HK parts interchange, say later on I decide to SBR.    Where would I find the proper barrel and have it switched.  Thanks Guys


Ok so Iam an Idiot and did completely read my email. It is a Special weapons SW5 not a bobcat OPPS My bad. any is this better then the bobcat. Thanks  
1/9/2008 5:55:49 PM EDT
[#6]
I think the old Special Weapons used to supply Bobcat with at least parts maybe more. I have a Coharie Arms that runs great. I had a failure to eject issue and sent it back. They worked on it and now it has run like a top. Its a really fun gun, especially if you SBR it.
1/10/2008 1:10:50 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Hello all, I am new to the HK rifles so please bear with me if these questions sound dumb. So please school in these weapons...
I am looking at a MP5 clone...Which one? Which one to stay away from??? Why??
Are Bobcat SW5's any good. What should I look for?? Will HK parts interchange, say later on I decide to SBR.    Where would I find the proper barrel and have it switched.  Thanks Guys
Well some of your questions weren't answered so I'll add some info:

I have a SW5 that was built in 2000. It has the cast steel receiver instead of being stamped and rolled. The downside is that it won't take an A3 stock (collapsable type), but it will take a B&T folder just fine. The upside is that it's built like a tank and seems to work fine.

Early clones (like my SW5) were built to be copies of an HK94, specifically the long solid barrel. Changing to an SBR was done by cutting the barrel down or switching it out. The first required crowning and then threading if you want a supressor. The second required an HK smith with a 10 ton press (or something like that). I cut my own down and crowned it myself. As this was to be a 50 yrd. max weapon, I figured that I'd give it a try with all my years of hand-crafting experience. It works great. I just don't have the three lug barrel end though.



Some of the reputable HK smiths won't work on Special Weapons guns because they are "pieces of shit", as they put it. But there are other places that will.

I did the cut job myself because I had the time and the paperwork was for "me" to do the conversion. I figured that after it was done, I could just get a better (more authentic) barrel any time I want. The main thing was to get it registered and converted ASAP.

The new generation of clones have a 9" barrel (actually something like 8.9") that has a pinned fake supressor over them to extend to the minimal 16" required length. You have to just file down the solder and force the pin out to reveal the shorter three lug barrel and make them into an SBR. Easy enough to do and then you're all set. Or you could buy a pistol (which has the short barrel exposed already, but no stock) and add the stock when you get approval from the ATF.

The Coharies seem to be working very well and getting great reivews from most everyone. And you can get one directly from them for about $1,100 with shipping. I think they have CA94 rifles and pistols available right now too. Well they did just two days ago anyway.
1/12/2008 1:50:33 PM EDT
[#8]
I have two of Cohaire's new 89's.  Both ran great w/o changing a thing (except swaping the junk mag and shooting HK factory mags instead).  Finish seems to be fine (heard complaints of older ones being rather poor).  My only complaints would be that the safety selector is a little loose (you can move it slightly past "safe") and that on the full sized pistol the interior charging handle tube is plastic and not long enough...simple to fix but will run another $60 to replace.

I went with the pistol route as I wanted to SBR them.  You can SBR the rifles (94's) too but I didn't want to deal with cutting faux suppressor off.  I figured it would be easier to convert the pistols.  Of course, if you want to maintain the original stock, then you might lean toward the rifles.  None of them come with a B&T sidefolder stock so I'd be replacing it either way.  

Buy one (or three) and you won't regret it.
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