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12/24/2007 4:42:44 AM EDT
Does anyone know of a video that demonstrates the fastest method of reloading the PTR-91?
12/24/2007 9:37:14 AM EDT
[#1]
get a paddle mag release installed, then we can talk
12/24/2007 1:45:50 PM EDT
[#2]
+1 on the paddle mag release.
I don't know how people live without them.
12/24/2007 5:58:30 PM EDT
[#3]

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get a paddle mag release installed, then we can talk


I have a v53 with a paddle and would like to hear the proper way to do a fast reload please.
12/25/2007 6:22:39 AM EDT
[#4]

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get a paddle mag release installed, then we can talk


I have a v53 with a paddle and would like to hear the proper way to do a fast reload please.


The proper method to fast reload any HK 9x series weapon as taught by the former director of the HK ITD, HKPRO, is to use a double mag clamp in the following manner.

1.  When you realize the weapon has run dry you should immeadialty transiton to your pistol if nessassary.
2.  When time permits lock back  the charging handle, grab the double magazine while depressing the paddle magazine release and move the full magazine under the magwell and insert it into the magwell.  
3.  Slap the charging handle to the left and allowing the carreir group to strip a round off the magazine.

Thats pretty much it.
12/27/2007 6:43:52 AM EDT
[#5]

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get a paddle mag release installed, then we can talk


I have a v53 with a paddle and would like to hear the proper way to do a fast reload please.


The proper method to fast reload any HK 9x series weapon as taught by the former director of the HK ITD, HKPRO, is to use a double mag clamp in the following manner.

1.  When you realize the weapon has run dry you should immeadialty transiton to your pistol if nessassary.
2.  When time permits lock back  the charging handle, grab the double magazine while depressing the paddle magazine release and move the full magazine under the magwell and insert it into the magwell.  
3.  Slap the charging handle to the left and allowing the carreir group to strip a round off the magazine.

Thats pretty much it.


This method requires using the charging handle TWICE. Why wouldn't you insert the fresh magazine and once grab the charging handle and let er rip.
12/27/2007 7:40:32 AM EDT
[#6]

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get a paddle mag release installed, then we can talk


I have a v53 with a paddle and would like to hear the proper way to do a fast reload please.


The proper method to fast reload any HK 9x series weapon as taught by the former director of the HK ITD, HKPRO, is to use a double mag clamp in the following manner.

1.  When you realize the weapon has run dry you should immeadialty transiton to your pistol if nessassary.
2.  When time permits lock back  the charging handle, grab the double magazine while depressing the paddle magazine release and move the full magazine under the magwell and insert it into the magwell.  
3.  Slap the charging handle to the left and allowing the carreir group to strip a round off the magazine.

Thats pretty much it.


This method requires using the charging handle TWICE. Why wouldn't you insert the fresh magazine and once grab the charging handle and let er rip.


Just a guess. Maybe you need to use the cocking handle twice to make sure the chamber is empty or there was not a bad shell stuck in the chamber????

I have no idea.
12/27/2007 7:55:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Somewhere there is a video of German troops practicing reloads on a covered range...
12/27/2007 9:07:34 AM EDT
[#8]

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get a paddle mag release installed, then we can talk


I have a v53 with a paddle and would like to hear the proper way to do a fast reload please.


The proper method to fast reload any HK 9x series weapon as taught by the former director of the HK ITD, HKPRO, is to use a double mag clamp in the following manner.

1.  When you realize the weapon has run dry you should immeadialty transiton to your pistol if nessassary.
2.  When time permits lock back  the charging handle, grab the double magazine while depressing the paddle magazine release and move the full magazine under the magwell and insert it into the magwell.  
3.  Slap the charging handle to the left and allowing the carreir group to strip a round off the magazine.

Thats pretty much it.


This method requires using the charging handle TWICE. Why wouldn't you insert the fresh magazine and once grab the charging handle and let er rip.

Good question; every demo I've ever seen does it this way though, maybe it makes it easier to seat the fresh mag?
12/27/2007 1:40:42 PM EDT
[#9]

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get a paddle mag release installed, then we can talk


I have a v53 with a paddle and would like to hear the proper way to do a fast reload please.


The proper method to fast reload any HK 9x series weapon as taught by the former director of the HK ITD, HKPRO, is to use a double mag clamp in the following manner.

1.  When you realize the weapon has run dry you should immeadialty transiton to your pistol if nessassary.
2.  When time permits lock back  the charging handle, grab the double magazine while depressing the paddle magazine release and move the full magazine under the magwell and insert it into the magwell.  
3.  Slap the charging handle to the left and allowing the carreir group to strip a round off the magazine.

Thats pretty much it.


This method requires using the charging handle TWICE. Why wouldn't you insert the fresh magazine and once grab the charging handle and let er rip.

Good question; every demo I've ever seen does it this way though, maybe it makes it easier to seat the fresh mag?


Exactly. If you try to stuff a loaded mag into the gun it may not lock in place with the bolt closed.
12/27/2007 2:05:21 PM EDT
[#10]
I've never had an issue with loading a full 20 rd mag into a closed bolt, but I have had issues with releasing the bolt w/o 1st locking it in. I've caught myself giving it a little forward assist when I release it and actually slowing down the bolt and not getting a good engagement.
12/27/2007 4:24:06 PM EDT
[#11]
It is much easier to lock in a fully loaded mag with the bolt locked back.  Its also good to know that there is not a bad round in the chamber.
12/27/2007 6:37:35 PM EDT
[#12]

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I've never had an issue with loading a full 20 rd mag into a closed bolt, but I have had issues with releasing the bolt w/o 1st locking it in. I've caught myself giving it a little forward assist when I release it and actually slowing down the bolt and not getting a good engagement.


Where did you get 20 MP5 mags??
12/28/2007 5:17:15 AM EDT
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This method requires using the charging handle TWICE.

Not really. You pull back on the handle once to lock the bolt open, but slapping it closed takes little to no extra time.

I have a paddle mag release installed on my G3K clone, and I can reload pretty quickly. Not AR15 quickly, but HK quickly.

12/28/2007 8:02:02 AM EDT
[#14]
How does one get a paddle release? Linky? those look cool
12/28/2007 6:40:14 PM EDT
[#15]
No tactical reload?
12/29/2007 4:07:04 AM EDT
[#16]
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How does one get a paddle release? Linky? those look cool+1 on that.  I too would like one for my 91.
12/29/2007 4:08:26 AM EDT
[#17]

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How does one get a paddle release? Linky? those look cool


The best way to get a paddle magazine release is to send your HK weapon off to one of the better know HK smiths and let them install it for you.  In most cases it can be installed without refinishing the enitre rifle with just a little touch up to the affected area.
12/29/2007 4:50:24 AM EDT
[#18]

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How does one get a paddle release? Linky? those look cool


The best way to get a paddle magazine release is to send your HK weapon off to one of the better know HK smiths and let them install it for you.  In most cases it can be installed without refinishing the enitre rifle with just a little touch up to the affected area.


Arizona Response Systems (T. Mark Grahm) has a 3 month backlog of work...has anyone used him to shorten the barrel on your PTR?
12/29/2007 7:27:23 AM EDT
[#19]

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How does one get a paddle release? Linky? those look cool



I've had Ralph Smith at RDTS do two for me. Not inexpensive but well worth it.
1/2/2008 8:34:29 PM EDT
[#20]
I will say that I have done quite a few reload drills using my CETME, but not having a paddle release didn't really bother me. I guess being that I have an M4 carbine for work has something to do with being comfortable with just a button.
1/3/2008 6:01:14 PM EDT
[#21]

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I will say that I have done quite a few reload drills using my CETME, but not having a paddle release didn't really bother me. I guess being that I have an M4 carbine for work has something to do with being comfortable with just a button.


You must have very large hands...
1/3/2008 8:12:55 PM EDT
[#22]

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I will say that I have done quite a few reload drills using my CETME, but not having a paddle release didn't really bother me. I guess being that I have an M4 carbine for work has something to do with being comfortable with just a button.


Can you actually hit the button and release the magazine without changing your grip?
1/4/2008 12:12:54 PM EDT
[#23]
yes I can. I am also left handed. and I do have big hands. to give you an idea, I have a high capacity 1911 with a double stack magazine, and it fits me almost perfect.
1/4/2008 2:09:06 PM EDT
[#24]
See, I do it differently without the paddle mag release.

I am a right handed shooter. To change mags:

1) If empty I will pull the charging handle and lock back the bolt
2) Inspect the chamber to clear any failures
3) With left hand grab mag (fingers pointing towards me)
4) Push release button with left hand index finger
5) Simultaneously pull down on mag freeing it from magwell
6) Reach back, dump mag into dump pouch
7) Grab new mag
8) Insert mag
9) Slap charging handle

This method is marginally slower than just dropping the mag on the ground and enables mag/partial ammo retention.
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