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Posted: 4/5/2007 10:37:55 PM EDT
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how many usa parts does a ptr91 need to meet 922r? ETA: Which parts come stock USA made? |
| What?? I thought you couldnt have more than 10 imported parts, --- like on a no ban AK you need at least 6 american made parts (for instance pistolgrip, receiver, hammer, disconecter, trigger, muzzle device). So the PTR has the barrel, trunnion, receiver, handguard, buttstock, pistolgrip. (are the trigger components USA or HK????) any other applicable compliance parts, how many applicable parts total? |
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The number of US parts needed for compliance differs for each type of rifle: FAL's, AK's, and HK's do not necessarily have the same amount in other words. I believe the number of US parts needed for HK types is SEVEN, if using a muzzle attachment. . . . Which parts are US made on the PTR series? You'd have to look at each rifle individually, as they differ depending on what they had available at the time of assembly. I've heard of people that have HK triggers, others with US made. Original stock and handguards vs US made, etc. etc. etc. This being the case, I can imagine a scenario where one or more might not even be compliant leaving the factory...since not even JLD could answer your question either. |
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Here's a link to a site with a letter from the ATF listing the parts count for several imported guns, the letter is quite old, but the info should still be correct: Soupbowl Enterprises' Response from ATF concerning parts count. Hope this helps, ARKAR Edited to add, notice that part #5, "muzzle attachment", isn't listed on the HK G3 rifle, so it looks like the count is seven when you add the flash suppressor to the G3. |
| Hey thanks guys, thats the kind of info I was looking for. I was having a hard time wording my question. So all PTRs meet 922r, but depending on the generation it could have different compliance parts than other itterations? I think thats the vibe I am getting. Thanks a lot this info helps a lot. |
I was told the only way to be sure...is to look for yourself. |
Incorrect, no matter where the receiver comes from, or where the assault-style (non-sporting) rifle is assembled, it can only use 10 or fewer imported parts. |
I got my first PTR91 over two years ago. It is one of the early "no ban" rifles with a pinned flash suppressor. The U.S. parts were barrel, trunnion, receiver, charging handle, pistol grip, butt stock, and hammer. I emailed Victor at J.L.D. Enterprises to ask about buying a U.S. made sear from him in order to put a German stock on the rifle. He said they were not selling U.S. made parts yet, but not to add any more foreign parts to the rifle until I found U.S. made sear or other compliance part somewhere. Since the PTR91 is the same design as the previously imported HK91, ATF sees it as a non-sporting foreign rifle assembled from parts. ETA: ARKAR was a little faster on the keyboard than I. |
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Guys, the way that section 922r reads: "Section 922(r), Title 18, U.S.C., makes it unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) of the GCA. Regulations implementing the law in 27 C.F.R. 478.39 provide that a violation of section 922(r) will result if a semiautomatic rifle or shotgun is assembled with more than 10 of the following imported parts." So if the non-sporting gun was of the type banned by the 1989 ban, then it cannot be assembled using more than 10 imported parts, period. Doesn't matter what parts it uses, no more than 10 imported are allowed. |
Well im glad to have that cleared up for my sake. Sorry for misinformation on my end. |
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