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Posted: 6/14/2005 6:24:08 PM EDT
| When I get my rifle soon, I plan on setting the sight to 300m and using the US Army 300m zeroing target. Is this method any better or worse than any other method out there? |
| Are you planning on shooting 300 plus meters most of the time ? Rotary sight drum has 100 to 400 meters settings. 200 meters would be a more practical range with the HK type sight setup. I would recommend the HK scope for 250 meters and beyond range accurate use as the HK sights are not on par with the M1A. |
dunno... supposeldy at 25yrdsthe way the sights are set up, you should be able to zero at 25yrds on the 200m pepe and it should be zero'd at the rest ,, the cetme i have is sigted in this way along with others i know,, and they are dead on all the way thru the 400m mark( we had a 500+ yard range to test them out) all we did is at each dist change we flipped over to the next peep, and were nailin gongs all day |
| I think you missed the point - 25 m is a handy distance at which you can "see" your target and the 147 gr 308 trajectory at 25 m and 200-225 m intersect . You could use 300 m to zero with the same success however you would have to have really good eyesight and / or be a really good shot to use 300 m to zero your rifle. |
Well, yeah. I'm talking about using the Army 300m zeroing targets. The little targets with the silhouette of the man who appears to be 300m when the target is 25 meters away. So doing this will have the same effect or not? Does someone have a trajectory chart of .308 we could see? |
maybe im missing something here... G3/91/cetme Hk.. All have peeps(4 different size apartures) from 100 meters thru 400meters, if the armours books and such say to ZERO the rifle usieng the 200m at 25yrds, AND that this will zero the rifle in all peep settings, why are you wanting to do it at 25yrds with 300m targets to zero at 300m? when doing it at 25 w/200m with zero it thru all the other sight settings.seems your makin it harder than it should be? |
I think we both might be confused. Shouldn't both accomplish the same thing? I think I would need to know the trajectory to know extactly what you and I are both talking about. Also, is it 25 yards for 200 meters or 25 meters for 200 meters? Would they actually have you zero something in yards to get it in meters? I'm asking about the 300 meters because I have plenty of 300 meter zero targets. |
25m, with 200m peep. dont matter what kind of targets you are useing. use any target and make your groups dead center and how tight ya want them. and it shouldbe good to go. ill see if ic an find the manual.... ETA: links drzeros(memeber here) site has a few G3/hk manuals along withak and cetme pdf,, G3 manual manual the Hk manual shows doing the sighting at 100m with the 200m peep. But it has also been done at 25m due tot he ballistics of the nato round. |
well you dont put sae50 in a motor when it calls for 20/50 now do you,,or diesil in a gas motor? you wanted to know how it is done,, weve show'd you,if its not the answer you wanted sorry but thats how it is done.. |
I'm not accusing anyone of telling me the wrong information, but I'm asking someone to explain why it is the way it is. Why would you zero it for 200 meters at 100 meters and how is zeroing it at 25 meters equal to the same thing? |
link ballistic calculator will havethe numbers i just grab'd fast for a nato round 147gr's at 2750 zero at 300yards you can play around with the numbers i have. inthe several thatidid there is only a 4-6 inch diff between the zero's thats at 200m zero,300m zero and 25m zero.( i did the 25m to 200m) only an inch or so off.. The sights on the rifle take up for this, im not into all this ballistic crap i just know how its supposed to be done and that it works lol..... NOW if your scopein the gun thats fine and dandy these tables may work for what you want but standard iron sights just try it as how the manual says,, with the g3/cetme/91 series your only gonn a be getting normal MBR groups 1-4icnhs at 100+. drop at 200 yards with a 27yard zero(25m) is 0.08 drop at 27 yards(zero)- table only shows 30 yards so it maybe off by a hair drop is 0.01 so under an inch..... zero at 27 its on at 200 i could be wrong but thats all under an inch.. and from what i understand the sights on these rifles are set up that way. so if ya zero at 300 it may throw it all off,,, but give it a try, all i know is it works on my rifle and several others ive handled have fun with the tables,, tho it prolly would do better if i knew all the exact numbers and all that fancy mumbo jumbo math bullshit 
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