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5/11/2008 8:41:57 AM EDT
I just picked up one of these yesterday, and its my first FAL. I thought it was about time that my Armalite AR-10A2 and PTR-91 had a new friend.

Since it's my first FAL, I wanted to know if there was a best setting(s) for the adjustable gas system?  I'm intending to use 150g ammo +/- a few grains.
Hopefully I can get out to the range with her in a week or two.

G1

Also, if anyone knows where to get a original G1 leather sling, please do tell.
5/11/2008 11:50:17 AM EDT
[#1]
There is a guy on ebay that sells unissued G1 slings.  
5/11/2008 12:14:03 PM EDT
[#2]

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I just picked up one of these yesterday, and its my first FAL. I thought it was about time that my Armalite AR-10A2 and PTR-91 had a new friend.

Since it's my first FAL, I wanted to know if there was a best setting(s) for the adjustable gas system?  I'm intending to use 150g ammo +/- a few grains.
Hopefully I can get out to the range with her in a week or two.

G1

Also, if anyone knows where to get a original G1 leather sling, please do tell.


IIRC the proper method is to open up the gas system so that the rifle acts like a single-shot, and you must cycle the action by hand to chamber a new cartridge.  close down one notch at a time until the thing acts normally, I.E. chambers a new round by itself, and then close the gas system two more notches for reliability's sake.
5/11/2008 12:31:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Hold it at your side and fire a single round that has been loaded into an otherwise empty mag.  Keep doing so and closing one click until the bolt locks open.  Close two more clicks and you are done.
5/11/2008 6:35:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the info guys.


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There is a guy on ebay that sells unissued G1 slings.  


nwobhm,

I went ebay and ran some searches, but nothing came up.
If you have a lint, it would be appreciated.
5/12/2008 12:58:54 PM EDT
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I just picked up one of these yesterday, and its my first FAL. I thought it was about time that my Armalite AR-10A2 and PTR-91 had a new friend.

Since it's my first FAL, I wanted to know if there was a best setting(s) for the adjustable gas system?  I'm intending to use 150g ammo +/- a few grains.
Hopefully I can get out to the range with her in a week or two.

G1

Also, if anyone knows where to get a original G1 leather sling, please do tell.


IIRC the proper method is to open up the gas system so that the rifle acts like a single-shot, and you must cycle the action by hand to chamber a new cartridge.  close down one notch at a time until the thing acts normally, I.E. chambers a new round by itself, and then close the gas system two more notches for reliability's sake.



You can do as you please, but if you will close the gas and open it one click until it fails to extract, and then close it two clicks, you will only have to clear one jammed case instead of 9 or 10 of them.
When it comes to clearing that jammed case, it is fairly easy. Hold the rifle vertically with the bore muzzle up. Grasp the barrel with your right hand and place the heel of your left hand on the cocking handle. Life the rifle about a foot off of the solid surface that it was resting on, and slam it butt first while pushing down on the cocking handle. The stuck cas will come loose. It may take a couple of tries your first time in order to learn how much force to apply.

5/12/2008 2:36:00 PM EDT
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I just picked up one of these yesterday, and its my first FAL. I thought it was about time that my Armalite AR-10A2 and PTR-91 had a new friend.

Since it's my first FAL, I wanted to know if there was a best setting(s) for the adjustable gas system?  I'm intending to use 150g ammo +/- a few grains.
Hopefully I can get out to the range with her in a week or two.

G1

Also, if anyone knows where to get a original G1 leather sling, please do tell.


IIRC the proper method is to open up the gas system so that the rifle acts like a single-shot, and you must cycle the action by hand to chamber a new cartridge.  close down one notch at a time until the thing acts normally, I.E. chambers a new round by itself, and then close the gas system two more notches for reliability's sake.



You can do as you please, but if you will close the gas and open it one click until it fails to extract, and then close it two clicks, you will only have to clear one jammed case instead of 9 or 10 of them.
When it comes to clearing that jammed case, it is fairly easy. Hold the rifle vertically with the bore muzzle up. Grasp the barrel with your right hand and place the heel of your left hand on the cocking handle. Life the rifle about a foot off of the solid surface that it was resting on, and slam it butt first while pushing down on the cocking handle. The stuck cas will come loose. It may take a couple of tries your first time in order to learn how much force to apply.



HBR, your method will work, but my suggestion was geared towards the neophyte, who might benefit from manipulating the gas regulator and thus understanding what it does.  Again, your short-cut will do, but perhaps doing it the long way has some benefits in the long run.
5/13/2008 7:05:26 AM EDT
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I just picked up one of these yesterday, and its my first FAL. I thought it was about time that my Armalite AR-10A2 and PTR-91 had a new friend.

Since it's my first FAL, I wanted to know if there was a best setting(s) for the adjustable gas system?  I'm intending to use 150g ammo +/- a few grains.
Hopefully I can get out to the range with her in a week or two.

G1

Also, if anyone knows where to get a original G1 leather sling, please do tell.


IIRC the proper method is to open up the gas system so that the rifle acts like a single-shot, and you must cycle the action by hand to chamber a new cartridge.  close down one notch at a time until the thing acts normally, I.E. chambers a new round by itself, and then close the gas system two more notches for reliability's sake.



You can do as you please, but if you will close the gas and open it one click until it fails to extract, and then close it two clicks, you will only have to clear one jammed case instead of 9 or 10 of them.
When it comes to clearing that jammed case, it is fairly easy. Hold the rifle vertically with the bore muzzle up. Grasp the barrel with your right hand and place the heel of your left hand on the cocking handle. Life the rifle about a foot off of the solid surface that it was resting on, and slam it butt first while pushing down on the cocking handle. The stuck cas will come loose. It may take a couple of tries your first time in order to learn how much force to apply.



HBR, your method will work, but my suggestion was geared towards the neophyte, who might benefit from manipulating the gas regulator and thus understanding what it does.  Again, your short-cut will do, but perhaps doing it the long way has some benefits in the long run.


Have you ever used the procedure that you recommend?
5/13/2008 9:23:16 AM EDT
[#8]

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I just picked up one of these yesterday, and its my first FAL. I thought it was about time that my Armalite AR-10A2 and PTR-91 had a new friend.

Since it's my first FAL, I wanted to know if there was a best setting(s) for the adjustable gas system?  I'm intending to use 150g ammo +/- a few grains.
Hopefully I can get out to the range with her in a week or two.

G1

Also, if anyone knows where to get a original G1 leather sling, please do tell.


IIRC the proper method is to open up the gas system so that the rifle acts like a single-shot, and you must cycle the action by hand to chamber a new cartridge.  close down one notch at a time until the thing acts normally, I.E. chambers a new round by itself, and then close the gas system two more notches for reliability's sake.



You can do as you please, but if you will close the gas and open it one click until it fails to extract, and then close it two clicks, you will only have to clear one jammed case instead of 9 or 10 of them.
When it comes to clearing that jammed case, it is fairly easy. Hold the rifle vertically with the bore muzzle up. Grasp the barrel with your right hand and place the heel of your left hand on the cocking handle. Life the rifle about a foot off of the solid surface that it was resting on, and slam it butt first while pushing down on the cocking handle. The stuck cas will come loose. It may take a couple of tries your first time in order to learn how much force to apply.



HBR, your method will work, but my suggestion was geared towards the neophyte, who might benefit from manipulating the gas regulator and thus understanding what it does.  Again, your short-cut will do, but perhaps doing it the long way has some benefits in the long run.


Have you ever used the procedure that you recommend?


Yes, I understand it's more-or-less SOP for FAL owners:www.l1a1.com/gas.html.
5/15/2008 5:41:21 PM EDT
[#9]
I am curious as to how "my" method is a short cut. The shooter has to manipulate the gas regulator just as much using "my" way as "your" way. Thye only thing "missing" in "my" method is the repeated slamming of the buttstock onto a hard surface in order to extract the jammed cases.
5/16/2008 11:04:40 AM EDT
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I am curious as to how "my" method is a short cut. The shooter has to manipulate the gas regulator just as much using "my" way as "your" way. Thye only thing "missing" in "my" method is the repeated slamming of the buttstock onto a hard surface in order to extract the jammed cases.


I meant no offense in describing your method.  As far as "my" method goes (really the standard method), it does not result in jammed cases, at least in the dozen or so FALS I have adjusted, nor have I heard about frequent jamming such as you describe in other venues.

To each their own, BUT it is worthwhile to factor in the techniques of many users as well as the manufacturer in creating one's personal technique.
5/22/2008 5:21:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Or you can just set the gas dial on "3" and that will generally be where you end up anyway.
(7 is max open, most ammo won't cycle it fully until at least 5, then -2 more for reliability = 3.)
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