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3/13/2005 10:40:26 AM EDT
As the title says, how accurate is your FAL?  Please specifiy what type of FAL you have and the ammo used.  Also what is the most accurate surplus out there?

As for myself I have a 16" carbine built off an entreprise receiver.  I get decent groups with good ammo.  Its a different story with surplus though as the groups really open up.  The following is a quick reference to what I have experienced with my FAL listed from best to worst.

Factory Ammo:
 Federal match 168gr BTHP......1.25MOA
 Remmington 168gt NBT...........1.5 MOA
 PMC 147gr FMJ........................2.5+ MOA

Surplus Ammo:
 Portugese..........................2+MOA    
 South African....................2.5+MOA
 Argentine..........................3+MOA
 Spanish.............................3+MOA
 Indian................................CRAP
3/13/2005 5:08:17 PM EDT
[#1]
STG kit on DCI receiver:

Aussie:    1.7 moa
Port:         2.5 moa
SA R1:     3.0 moa

SA kit on Imbel GL, 18" Steyr Barrel

Aussie:     1.8 moa
Port:          2.5 moa

SA kit on Imbel GL, 21" Argentine barrel/chrome

Aussie:     1.9 moa

3/13/2005 6:40:19 PM EDT
[#2]
very
3/13/2005 7:59:03 PM EDT
[#3]

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very



3/14/2005 6:35:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Minute of gong out 200 meters with the Para
3/14/2005 7:15:21 AM EDT
[#5]
About 2.5" on SA, Port and Aussie. Two Imbel on Imbel builds.

CETME is about 2" on same.

Only my Wilson 308bbl Garand and CZ550 prefer the Aussie; my other 308 guns don't care.
3/14/2005 4:45:47 PM EDT
[#6]

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About 2.5" on SA, Port and Aussie. Two Imbel on Imbel builds.

CETME is about 2" on same.

Only my Wilson 308bbl Garand and CZ550 prefer the Aussie; my other 308 guns don't care.



If your CETME is outshooting your FAL's, you need much more FAL practice.
3/14/2005 5:25:53 PM EDT
[#7]

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About 2.5" on SA, Port and Aussie. Two Imbel on Imbel builds.

CETME is about 2" on same.

Only my Wilson 308bbl Garand and CZ550 prefer the Aussie; my other 308 guns don't care.



If your CETME is outshooting your FAL's, you need much more FAL practice.



Actually most Cetmes are more accurate than the avg FAL.  Its been my own experience in any case, thats not to say I don't prefer my FAL's though.
3/14/2005 5:29:47 PM EDT
[#8]
My Badger barrelled DSA FAL shoots about 1.25" groups at 100yds with Fed Gold Medal 168gr.
3/15/2005 7:11:12 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

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About 2.5" on SA, Port and Aussie. Two Imbel on Imbel builds.

CETME is about 2" on same.

Only my Wilson 308bbl Garand and CZ550 prefer the Aussie; my other 308 guns don't care.



If your CETME is outshooting your FAL's, you need much more FAL practice.



I have witnesses that I was whacking plates at 200+ on the first mag with untouched irons. And it is happy with both CETME and G3 mags. A Century build miracle
Otherwise note more than one FAL, and only one of the others in .308.
3/16/2005 5:09:02 AM EDT
[#10]
Para 17" Coonan rec.  

Minute of clay bird at 100yds.  

I was gonna try to him them at 150yds but I didnt want to walk that far.
3/17/2005 2:04:09 PM EDT
[#11]
My Century rifle will average around 2-3" with open sights at 100 yards with Port.
3/17/2005 8:09:54 PM EDT
[#12]

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About 2.5" on SA, Port and Aussie. Two Imbel on Imbel builds.



Actually most Cetmes are more accurate than the avg FAL.



Uh, no.
3/19/2005 1:07:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Sub 1" at 100 yds with Winchester 168 silver tip and PMC 168 smk's.

15 shot groups with iron sights and surplus= 13 hits inside 2.5" and 2 hits between 2.5" and 3".
Srplus used, SA, US 1987 production m60, And get this...1969 Bulgarian steel cased corrosive stinky dusty stuff that i bought for like 75bucks per 900 rnd. case delivered! free shipping! This is the only firearm that shoots good with anything. Zero issues from day one! I pretty much just sighted it in and never looked back!
3/19/2005 2:42:36 PM EDT
[#14]
I put a DSA scope mount and a Springfield 14x 1st Gen Combat scope on a DSA STG 58a. Using hand loaded 150g fmj bt with IMR 4895 I hit 3" at 300 yds in prone with no problem.

rk
3/19/2005 5:06:07 PM EDT
[#15]

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About 2.5" on SA, Port and Aussie. Two Imbel on Imbel builds.



Actually most Cetmes are more accurate than the avg FAL.



Uh, no.



Uh Yes, you need to do more research buddy boy, facts are facts.
3/20/2005 2:25:03 PM EDT
[#16]

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About 2.5" on SA, Port and Aussie. Two Imbel on Imbel builds.



Actually most Cetmes are more accurate than the avg FAL.



Uh, no.



Uh Yes, you need to do more research buddy boy, facts are facts.



Buddy boy?

Anytime you want to take your junk to the range against any of my FALs you are on. What you read in books about Spanish CETME rifles is not what your POS $300 Century paperweight is. Perhaps you are simply like 98% of the people here and can't shoot. Read the post of the gentleman that scores under an inch with Winchester ballistic tip and you have a FAL. Just like the diehard Babyboomer M1A crowd that claim the M1A is more accurate than the FAL, that is wrong as well and I'd glady show anyone, anytime. I know how to shoot and shoot well, I am not shy about it, and I know what hits where.

Now go ahead and flame away for my tone, I don't appreciate being called "buddy boy" especially after I just got home from working a very long gun show listening to middle aged fat men yap about crap they have no idea about.

K Buddy Boy?
3/20/2005 2:25:54 PM EDT
[#17]

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My Badger barrelled DSA FAL shoots about 1.25" groups at 100yds with Fed Gold Medal 168gr.



You are about 3/4" away from that rifle's potential. Keep practicing.
3/20/2005 2:31:33 PM EDT
[#18]
Pretty damn.

I know this because a friend of mine who is a much better shot than I put some dang fine groups on paper with it.  
3/20/2005 8:15:09 PM EDT
[#19]

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Pretty damn.

I know this because a friend of mine who is a much better shot than I put some dang fine groups on paper with it.  



A correctly built FAL with good ammo and a good shooter is IMO, the most accurate .308 do-war gun. The FAL for whatever reason has developed a reputation as an inaccurate weapon, this is quite, quite wrong.
3/21/2005 4:06:38 AM EDT
[#20]
I have built a few FALs, and ALL were capable of 2MOA or better with surplus ammo - Port, SA, and Aussie, to be exact - and my full length Imbel/Coonan build will probably shoot 1 MOA, if scoped - because I have shot some outstanding groups with it - and believe any inconsistancy is probably from my use of the irons... Let's put it this way - even with the irons, I have NO problem hitting a 6" steel circle at 200 yards - and that thing looks like a dot at that distance...


The M1A *might* be a bit more accurate, but not enough to make a difference in the field - and certainly not enough to make up for the FAL's reliability/durability edge...


  - georgestrings
3/21/2005 7:51:42 AM EDT
[#21]
For my DSA STG58 I run about 2- 2 1/2 MOA on Aussie and Port surplus.

If I'm running my own reloads through it, I'm getting 1 1/2 MOA pretty consistently.  I'm very pleased with how my rifle shoots.

PS.  In the interest of being a tight a*s I normally run the pulled 147gr. FMJ surp. on my reloads.



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