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Posted: 1/6/2017 8:52:41 PM EDT
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My trigger will sometimes not reset back to the first take-up stage even when I hold it back after that shot is fired. It seems to do this quite inconsistently, and when I go to squeeze the trigger again I get a surprise that I'm not expecting. I know that some of us like to be surprised by the shot but this is not what's happening exactly if you know what I mean. When I first got it I was kind of babying the trigger and would end up getting a double fire. I read quite a bit about this happening when I first got it. My question is what what I have to do to change this to a regular G.I. trigger? What components will I need to change? Trigger, hammer? |
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Do you have other Garands or M1A's? I'm a bit confused about the trigger problem. A USGI trigger works the same way as NM trigger. But the NM trigger is lighter in pull. I get that sometimes too light of a trigger can cause problems. I wonder if there isn't something wrong with your trigger. But the reset on a NM trigger and a USGI trigger SHOULD be the same. I don't notice much difference between my Garands and my loaded M1A. Other than that the NM trigger might be a bit lighter. But even the Garands are not that much heavier. To me recollection. I could measure the pull if you want between the two if you want. I think it's because they're just well used that the Garands are much heavier.
I guess you don't hold to the rear after your shot breaks? I know everyone does things differently but it's my perspective that good follow through for shooting well is helped when you squeeze and then hold the trigger to the rear. You're not going to double when you do that. For me sometimes a super light trigger breaks a little too soon. I know you want to be surprised but sometimes too light of a trigger can just break when you blow some air on it.  Seems like.
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Do you have other Garands or M1A's? I'm a bit confused about the trigger problem. A USGI trigger works the same way as NM trigger. But the NM trigger is lighter in pull. I get that sometimes too light of a trigger can cause problems. I wonder if there isn't something wrong with your trigger. But the reset on a NM trigger and a USGI trigger SHOULD be the same. I don't notice much difference between my Garands and my loaded M1A. Other than that the NM trigger might be a bit lighter. But even the Garands are not that much heavier. To me recollection. I could measure the pull if you want between the two if you want. I think it's because they're just well used that the Garands are much heavier. I guess you don't hold to the rear after your shot breaks? I know everyone does things differently but it's my perspective that good follow through for shooting well is helped when you squeeze and then hold the trigger to the rear. You're not going to double when you do that. For me sometimes a super light trigger breaks a little too soon. I know you want to be surprised but sometimes too light of a trigger can just break when you blow some air on it. Seems like.The only thing that prompted me to think it was a national match trigger is how light the pull is. I hold all my triggers to the rear after the shot breaks, but this one does not seem to reset back to that first take up before the break, and when I pull the trigger again it just breaks without any take-up. It doesn't do this every time but inconsistently which is leading me to believe that there is a problem somewhere. It will also do this while dry firing it. As a matter of fact the only way that this trigger will work properly is to NOT hold it to the rear after the shot is fired and immediately let it spring forward which I don't like. I also posted this on the M 14 forum and it looks like I might be trying a shooting sight trigger and hammer in my near future. |
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Okay I just took it out of the stock and reinserted it in just the action and I still get the same results.
I also took it outside of the action and it looks like it is not seating fully back into the hammer hooks when it does this and with it out of the action I can actually pull it all the way forward to fully reset. I took some pics below and outlined in red the bottom of the hammer hooks with before and after pics. The first pic is of it fully seated into the hammer hooks. The second pic is what happens when it does not fully seat and let the trigger reset all the way forward. I wonder if I were to try that Emery cloth trick and maybe that would stop this from happening and smooth things up a little bit. It also almost feels like the hammer spring is too strong and causing it to bind. Attached File Attached File |
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You might want to take your trigger group apart for cleaning and inspection.
A buddy had a M14 type rifle with a trigger that also wasn't resetting correctly some years back. Everything looked good from the outside, but when we took it apart for inspection, the trigger pin was broken into two pieces not allowing it to reset as it should. |
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Took out the trigger group and put it in the action without being in the stock still got the same results.
Took it out of the action and still got the same results. I completely disassembled the trigger group and tried polishing some of the surfaces very lightly just in case there were burrs that were causing the hammer hooks to hang up on this sear and not let it release all the way forward, But the problem still existed. Got a Bula Defense M-14 trigger and hammer on the way to tide me over until I can afford a Shooting Sight trigger and hammer. |
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Yeah, obviously something is wrong. Hopefully once you put a new hammer and trigger in it will solve it. It SEEMS, not sure, that maybe somebody tried to do some stoning to lighten the trigger up and maybe didn't do it so well. Or it's just overly worn.
Well I'm not sure if that completely explains it either, but it really doesn't matter why. It's just not right. |
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