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4/26/2016 6:09:17 PM EDT
I have been offered an M1 as a FTF trade for an firearm but I'm curious about the grade. The owner says it's a Service grade, but it looks a little rough compared to the other Service grade rifles I have. Can anyone give me any criteria to distinguish the different grades from each other?

The rifle in question is a Springfield with a 1,955,xxx serial number (1943?).
4/26/2016 7:05:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Now it is pretty much decided by bore condition only by the CMP        SG TE <5 ME < 3.

Quality of rifles varies on what they unpack and inspect

There was a time when the CMP would down grade a rifle for overall condition so you had a good chance of getting a RG with SG bore readings with insignificant flaws like a chip in stock, ugly wood or cracked handguard........but since things have gotten slim rifle wise in the last few yrs at CMP they are a bit more stingy on grading. From the slim selection they had at the convention the SG were about the same as FG appearance wise you were just paying more for a slightly better bore.
4/26/2016 8:13:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes they are right here......

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/
4/26/2016 8:14:38 PM EDT
[#3]
It not just bore condition. Read the grades description carefully ,you will see a SG can have alot of wear
If its a CMP rifle the seller should have paperwork. Or possibly he is just calling it a Service Grade and its not even a CMP rifle

That being said I have seen many Field Grades that look and  grade better than some Service Grades. Alot of it just depends on who is doing the grading on that particular day
4/26/2016 8:17:04 PM EDT
[#4]
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It not just bore condition. Read the grades description carefully ,you will see a SG can have alot of wear
If its a CMP rifle the seller should have paperwork. Or possibly he is just calling it a Service Grade and its not even a CMP rifle
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He's claiming it's an SG but doesn't have the CMP paperwork, just the rifle and a green CMP case.
4/27/2016 8:58:46 AM EDT
[#5]
Where are you in Oklahoma?  I have a gauge you can use if near OKC and could also look it over for you.
5/2/2016 10:59:34 AM EDT
[#6]
edited per OP's request

but as i've seen the rifle in question it's a solid service grade that i'd be tickled shitless to open the box and see come from the CMP
5/2/2016 8:47:17 PM EDT
[#7]
I bought 11 service grades via the mail and never got one with throat erosion over 3.  In fact, I thought they were max 3 when I ordered them many years ago.  It seems the TE readings can be up to 5 now though.  The rifle could be a field grade from several years ago that is presented to you as a service grade with no paperwork.  I bought a throat erosion gauge to measure all my garands.  I wouldn't want a rifle with more than three in throat erosion because they were so easy to get and a rifle takes a lot of rounds to get to 5 and a new barrel isn't all that much extra for the "special".
5/2/2016 10:57:32 PM EDT
[#8]
Muzzle > TE.


Good TE is worthless if the Muzzle is thrashed, muzzle damage / wear is going to cause more accuracy issues than TE.   I'll take a TE 5-10 with ME 1 everyday over a TE <5  ME 3.

I have a few High TE 's with pristine muzzles that shoot very very well.
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