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11/7/2014 7:36:01 PM EDT
Just arrived - really nice Garand but hell, it has paint on the darn handguard!







11/7/2014 8:08:16 PM EDT
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The Brits used red paint to mark rifles that were not .303.  But with 4300 posts you know this.  :)

-- Chuck
11/7/2014 8:20:56 PM EDT
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The Brits used red paint to mark rifles that were not .303.  But with 4300 posts you know this.  :)

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Hence my

ETA - Thought I'd troll the guys who may not know the story of the Lend Lease Garands.
11/7/2014 8:51:54 PM EDT
[#3]
alittle 60 grit sandpaper would take care of that pesky paint
11/7/2014 9:06:39 PM EDT
[#4]
I'll buy that painted hand guard and stock

11/7/2014 9:21:24 PM EDT
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Hence my

ETA - Thought I'd troll the guys who may not know the story of the Lend Lease Garands.
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The Brits used red paint to mark rifles that were not .303.  But with 4300 posts you know this.  :)

-- Chuck


Hence my

ETA - Thought I'd troll the guys who may not know the story of the Lend Lease Garands.


Turnaround is fair play.  (Remember I said that)
11/7/2014 10:13:01 PM EDT
[#6]
The receiver finish is beautiful.
11/8/2014 2:30:58 AM EDT
[#7]
That my friend is nothing short of beautiful.
11/8/2014 10:36:33 AM EDT
[#8]
Milled trigger guard, plugged front sight screw, nice old stock set. Is that a flush nut elevation knob? Too bad it does not have lockbars. Really nice lend lease.
11/8/2014 10:46:42 AM EDT
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Why? Flush nut is correct for that rifle
11/8/2014 10:51:30 AM EDT
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Defender, when you have the the time can you check the follower arm and see if it is Flat Back or Double faced? Reason I ask I am trying to document parts on original 1941 Garands
11/8/2014 1:56:24 PM EDT
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Defender, when you have the the time can you check the follower arm and see if it is Flat Back or Double faced? Reason I ask I am trying to document parts on original 1941 Garands
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Will do when I can.
11/8/2014 10:05:13 PM EDT
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Oh good lord!!!    I am jealous. With the paint still!  And no sanding!!
That is a special baby right there!!!!!!  
Take care of her.
11/9/2014 12:21:35 AM EDT
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Why? Flush nut is correct for that rifle
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Too bad it does not have lockbars.


Why? Flush nut is correct for that rifle



(Smacks self in head) Too true. I got so hung up on the elevation knob I totally missed that.

Thanks for keeping me honest.
11/9/2014 4:16:08 PM EDT
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Defender, when you have the the time can you check the follower arm and see if it is Flat Back or Double faced? Reason I ask I am trying to document parts on original 1941 Garands
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The follower arm is a single bevel.
11/9/2014 6:22:51 PM EDT
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It doesnt look like any of these?
11/9/2014 6:28:16 PM EDT
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It doesnt look like any of these?
<a href="http://s47.photobucket.com/user/Garandlover/media/Follower%20Arms/Picture196.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/Follower%20Arms/Picture196.jpg</a>
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Those are single bevel and yes, it looks like those.

ETA - Okay, I see what you mean now.  I need to look again as I thought it was flat..
11/9/2014 6:41:55 PM EDT
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This is a single bevel


The arms I pictured the left one is a Flat Back arm and the right is a more uncommon Double Faced arm.  I would be very interested to see which you have

Heres a side view, Flat Back top, middle Double Faced

11/9/2014 6:52:08 PM EDT
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I pulled the rifle and one other I could get to easily in the safe and checked both: 325,987 and 643,631 have the double face.
11/9/2014 7:29:03 PM EDT
[#19]
I  appreciate the info. Thanks!
11/10/2014 9:37:12 AM EDT
[#20]
77343 = Double faced - face cut high on follower akin to your picture
393575 = Double faced - face cut lower on follower
464887 = Double faced - face cut lower on follower

11/10/2014 8:29:17 PM EDT
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The two that are "cut lower" do they look like the one on the right?

11/10/2014 10:38:05 PM EDT
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Yes.
11/11/2014 6:53:32 AM EDT
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follower arm on left in Flat Faced , middle- Double Faced (used for a short time), on right - Late style that was used through end of production.
11/11/2014 12:19:08 PM EDT
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Wow! Beautiful cartouche! The whole rifle looks nice.

CMP gun?
11/11/2014 2:06:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Did Garands not get British proof marks under Lend-Lease?
I had a GI Colt 1911 (sadly it didn't have the original slide or barrel and the dust cover needed repair) that was a Lend-Lease gun and it had Brit proof marks on the R/H side of the frame..
11/11/2014 7:39:05 PM EDT
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Lend Lease weapons were US Property and neither UK Property (broad arrow) marked nor proofed.  Surplus Lend Lease weapons exported from Britian had to be proofed but that was for commercial sale.

-- Chuck
11/11/2014 7:42:11 PM EDT
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Here's a quick rear sight reference.  My 900,000-series has the lockbar that was an "upgrade" from the early flush nut type.

Note the arsenals were not worried about making "correct" rifles -- they were making rifles.  Possible for any earlier part to have come with new rifle and be correct.  No way to document it, of course.



-- Chuck
11/13/2014 7:20:11 PM EDT
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Did Garands not get British proof marks under Lend-Lease?
I had a GI Colt 1911 (sadly it didn't have the original slide or barrel and the dust cover needed repair) that was a Lend-Lease gun and it had Brit proof marks on the R/H side of the frame..
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The weapons were not proofed when they arrived in country.  British law required weapons be proofed upon export which resulted in the markings seen on the rifles.  The Brits exported a lot of weapons as they were sort of the collection point in Europe for returning weapons from across the continent; all were proofed upon export.  The lend lease story is longer but the proofs create confusion when discussing a true LL versus a British return (that was also proofed).  Confused yet?  
11/13/2014 7:23:30 PM EDT
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Wow! Beautiful cartouche! The whole rifle looks nice.

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No, not a CMP gun.  Generally, the first few batches of Garands returned to the US went to Kliens and Interarms and were sold in the 1950's and early '60's.  Many of those early returns were LL rifles and ended up in some guys hands when he plunked over $29-$59 for one. You can never say never, but I don't think DCM received any of these returns back in the day.
11/13/2014 7:28:51 PM EDT
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follower arm on left in Flat Faced , middle- Double Faced (used for a short time), on right - Late style that was used through end of production.
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That's interesting as I really believe this LL is stone cold original.  The hammer spring housing, op rod catch and accelerator are in the white.
11/14/2014 12:24:04 AM EDT
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The weapons were not proofed when they arrived in country.  British law required weapons be proofed upon export which resulted in the markings seen on the rifles.  The Brits exported a lot of weapons as they were sort of the collection point in Europe for returning weapons from across the continent; all were proofed upon export.  The lend lease story is longer but the proofs create confusion when discussing a true LL versus a British return (that was also proofed).  Confused yet?  
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Did Garands not get British proof marks under Lend-Lease?
I had a GI Colt 1911 (sadly it didn't have the original slide or barrel and the dust cover needed repair) that was a Lend-Lease gun and it had Brit proof marks on the R/H side of the frame..


The weapons were not proofed when they arrived in country.  British law required weapons be proofed upon export which resulted in the markings seen on the rifles.  The Brits exported a lot of weapons as they were sort of the collection point in Europe for returning weapons from across the continent; all were proofed upon export.  The lend lease story is longer but the proofs create confusion when discussing a true LL versus a British return (that was also proofed).  Confused yet?  


That is odd.
It was a Property marked frame, so I'm curious why it would have gone through export channels...
But I guess maybe the same way many GI 1911's ended up as being backs.,
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