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Posted: 1/12/2013 3:46:39 PM EDT
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Im looking to make a trade with a guy for one of his M1s. He has 3, 2 SAs and an International Harvester. All three look like they are in good shape from the pictures he sent me and he says they all have excellent barrels. One of the SAs looked to have some light rust on the rear sight. What kind of value would these rifles have? Im not very picky, I want a shooter more than a safe queen but if the IH is worth getting im going to shoot for that one. If/when I get my own eyes on them is there anything I should look at for being deal breakers? I obviously new to Garands so any tips would be helpful.
A guesstimate is ok. TIA |
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Im looking to make a trade with a guy for one of his M1s. He has 3, 2 SAs and an International Harvester. All three look like they are in good shape from the pictures he sent me and he says they all have excellent barrels. One of the SAs looked to have some light rust on the rear sight. What kind of value would these rifles have? Im not very picky, I want a shooter more than a safe queen but if the IH is worth getting im going to shoot for that one. If/when I get my own eyes on them is there anything I should look at for being deal breakers? I obviously new to Garands so any tips would be helpful. A guesstimate is ok. TIA Hard to say really. It would be nice to gauge the barrels for TE and ME along with the gas cylinder and piston. If you cant do that and all seem to be in equal condition, then Id go for the IHC. .. |
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If you can't look at it in person, ask the seller to take closeup pictures of the rifle showing the condition of the stock, sights, action (open and closed) sights, etc. Then as him to dissemble it and take more closeup pictures of the assemblies to show conditions. If he got it from the CMP, ask him for the certificate that defines it's condition, e.g. Service Grade. Ask him to state in writing the condition of the bore and provide a picture of it to you using a bore light at the chamber and looking down the muzzle. You want a clean, shinny bore. For the muzzle, ask him if he has any M2 Ball ammo for it such as the Greek stuff currently available. As him to stand the rifle up on it's buttstock, take an M2 round and place it in the muzzle like the picture below. The more of the bullet protruding, the better the muzzle will gauge so you want the picture to look as much like this as possible. If no bullet shows, the muzzle is well worn and it may not shoot very well.  Price? $625.00 max. |
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Quoted: Thanks. He claims it would be a CMP correct grade (and by reading CMPs description of it it is) but the receiver area and the rear sights have a lot of surface rust on them. He is also saying $900 in value. Im going to ask him about the bullet in the barrel. He'll have the certificate from the CMP that says Correct Grade then and require that he send you pdf a copy of it to verify that and then if you purchase it, he must send you the original from CMP. Also be sure to get him to state that he's not replaced any parts on it because even replacing a single part with a non correct one will reduce it's value to no more than $625.00. ETA: $900 for a rusty Correct Grade M1 Garand is a bit high because you can still get a real Correct Grade directly from the CMP for $995.00 + $24.95 S&H. I'd ask him for an inspection period where you have time to check the rifle out to verify it's a real Correct Grade. There are a number of people on this site that could help you verify it by telling you where to look for the markings and also what to look for. I have a Correct Grade HRA M1 Garand and I used this site as well as Rob at PackRat's Collectibles, LLC. to verify each item to ensure I had what I thought I had.   |
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Thanks. He claims it would be a CMP correct grade (and by reading CMPs description of it it is) but the receiver area and the rear sights have a lot of surface rust on them. He is also saying $900 in value. Im going to ask him about the bullet in the barrel. He'll have the certificate from the CMP that says Correct Grade then and require that he send you pdf a copy of it to verify that and then if you purchase it, he must send you the original from CMP. Also be sure to get him to state that he's not replaced any parts on it because even replacing a single part with a non correct one will reduce it's value to no more than $625.00. ETA: $900 for a rusty Correct Grade M1 Garand is a bit high because you can still get a real Correct Grade directly from the CMP for $995.00 + $24.95 S&H. Unfortunatly CMP is out of Correct Grades and they last sold for $1150 plus $24.95 ship "If" it is truly a Correct Grade and only has light rust that can be removed it wouldnt be a bad deal You are right I would ask for the certificate and would still check to make sure it still has CORRECT PARTS. A certificate only means thats what it was when it left CMP's hands, anything could have happened between then and now If you list or PM me the part numbers I can help you |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thanks. He claims it would be a CMP correct grade (and by reading CMPs description of it it is) but the receiver area and the rear sights have a lot of surface rust on them. He is also saying $900 in value. Im going to ask him about the bullet in the barrel. He'll have the certificate from the CMP that says Correct Grade then and require that he send you pdf a copy of it to verify that and then if you purchase it, he must send you the original from CMP. Also be sure to get him to state that he's not replaced any parts on it because even replacing a single part with a non correct one will reduce it's value to no more than $625.00. ETA: $900 for a rusty Correct Grade M1 Garand is a bit high because you can still get a real Correct Grade directly from the CMP for $995.00 + $24.95 S&H. Unfortunately CMP is out of Correct Grades and they last sold for $1150 plus $24.95 ship "If" it is truly a Correct Grade and only has light rust that can be removed it wouldnt be a bad deal You are right I would ask for the certificate and would still check to make sure it still has CORRECT PARTS. A certificate only means thats what it was when it left CMP's hands, anything could have happened between then and now If you list or PM me the part numbers I can help you You are correct, I was looking at the Special Service Grade listing on the CMP website as we got one of those to shoot so that we could retire our Correct Grade because of it's increasing value. |
Against the advice from the experts I went ahead and traded my mini 14 for the garand, 10 clips, and $200. I wanted it dammit!  It has a great stock, cleaned up nicely, but I still need to give it a full cleaning and I want to check the numbers on it to see if they do all match. Ill be doing that in the am. Once im done with that im going to order another garand from CMP. I think im going to get the service grade HRA and add a post it asking for new wood. USGI wood is not necessary for me as long as it looks good. The HRA will be the shooter provided the one I got today is a correct. The 2 numbers I did see matched so hopefully it is.
Thanks for the advice guys, ill be back asking for more soon enough. I am having trouble finding bullets. CMP looks to be out of the surplus ones right now. I know I get shoot hot loads but what can I shoot? I know Hornaday makes a special Garand load that is 168 grain. Is 168 the magic number for the Garand? I will be getting a gas plug for them, but in the mean time I want to shoot till it pings! |
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