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Posted: 3/18/2010 5:14:34 PM EDT
| What features distinguish a WW II era Garand from later Garands ??? Post photos please...........Thanks |
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I don't have any pictures.
The WW2 rifles (most all of them) had the lockbar sights. There are a couple versions of the lockbar (lockbar 1 and lockbar 2 I think - difference in the bar shape). The bar/nut threaded on to the elevation screw end over on the windage knob. You loosen the bar up a few clicks, make your sight adjustments (elevation or windage) and then tighten up the lockbar again to "lock" in your adjustments. Many of them (again, most) would have had a narrower front sight base on the gas cylinder. The later gas cylinders had a wide base and more of it stuck out from under the sides of the front sight. The WW2 rifles also would have had a "seal cap" over the front sight screw to protect it and keep troops from messing with it. The stocks on the WW2 rifles were somewhat narrower, smaller in the wrist and pistol grip that the Korean War era rifles. Many of the WW2 era rifles would have had a (darn, the name of the part just went out of my left ear  - its the part that the recoil spring pushes up against the follower arm) a smaller/shallower notch for the pins on the follower arm to fit into. The later ones have much deeper notches, or longer ears whichever way you want to look at it.
If you get the books on the M1's that Scott Duff wrote he goes into lots of details (lots of pictures, too) on what the parts looked like, what numbers/letters were stamped on them, design changes, etc. that will help you ID whether or not your parts belong with the receiver they are mounted on. Also, there were no H&R or IHC M1s in WW2, only Springfield Armory and Winchester. The H&R and IHC rifles were made in the 1950's. |
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Good info.
Add to that all stocks were walnut, not beech or birch and had inspector markings on the left side. Bolts and numbered parts should all be by the same maker and usually ended with a revision number such as -4SA or -19SA. Post war parts usually start with 55 or 65 on the part number. |
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Yea... it would be really difficult to answer your question about the differences between features in a post. Further, changes were made to nearly all parts during WWII production, so that is also a moving target. So early WWI era rifles would be different than later WWII era rifles. After WWII, parts design became fairly stable. Interestingly, these questions matter to M1 collectors. If you really want to know, get Scott Duff's two books dealing with this topic. I don't know if he is the ultimate authority on the subject, but his books have a lot of information in them.
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What features distinguish a WW II era Garand from later Garands ??? Post photos please...........Thanks Mike: Go to the following link and view the pictures in his thread. Early 1942 and all correct. His has flush nut rear sights...they came before the lock-bar rears. Most things that distinguish a WWII era Garand are pretty inconspicuous. Receiver serial number, op-rod (sometimes), gas lock and rear sights are about the only readily apparent features. After that, it is drawing and revision numbers on the small parts. To most people not familiar with the M1, a WWII era will look just like a post-war Garand. Good luck. 
http://www.thecmp.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11339 dvo |
| Thanks Guys..............I think you supplied the info I needed. I also assume the WW II Garands had the milled trigger guards. I just want a Garand that has the outward looks of a WW II rifle. Just want a keepsake to honor my dads WW II service.................Take Care |
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