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10/22/2008 6:18:39 AM EDT
So I was just curious, can you actually affect the accuracy of a STANDARD M1A rifle from Springfield by field stripping it too many times? The manuals say that, but I find it hard to believe. Also is it standard to have to have a tool to tak apart the gas system and do you have to have a scraper to scrape the inside of the gas tube thing ecery time you clean it? It seems like these things are a bitch to clean compared to a standard AR.
10/22/2008 12:01:41 PM EDT
[#1]
A standard field tool will work, all I do for cleaning is clean the barrel and gas system only take me about 20 mins.
and at the end of the year when I dig in for winter I completely tear it down for a detail job
10/22/2008 12:48:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Every time you remove the action from the stock you affect the rifle bedding which will have an effect on accuracy.  
10/22/2008 1:06:23 PM EDT
[#3]
pbrsailor
yep that's what I was told when I had my M-1 bedded for hi-power shooting, however, question, are all M1/M1A's bedded actions??  I don't think the rattle battle's are f-glass bedded but I could be wrong.  Do you know??  

10/22/2008 1:34:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Well, I don't think the STANDARD model of the M1A from Springfield Armory has a bedded stock, and thats the model I had in question. I have no desire to get a loaded model or something with a bedded stock, I am going to be using any battle rifle as it was origionally intended, for possible use in shitty conditions and for functionality.
10/22/2008 2:12:35 PM EDT
[#5]
The loaded Springfield Armory M1As have several items from the National Match models but the stock and action is not glass bedded. The National Match and Heavy Barrel National Match rifles are.
10/22/2008 5:30:25 PM EDT
[#6]
Even the wood stocks without glass bedding will get loose after removing the action from the stock repeatedly.   An annual full blown cleaning with limited cleanings in between without removing the action from the stock will extend the life of the stock compression.  Additionally, it does not hurt to unlock the trigger guard and store the rifle muzzle down during off season long term storage to extend the life of the stock.   The guys who shoot rattle battle usually just use their match rifles near the end of the bedding life.  
10/22/2008 5:38:56 PM EDT
[#7]
 Never ever scrap the inside of the gas cylinder and the piston.  Use some solvent and a nylon bore brush if needed. Some do use the appropriate size  drill bit to gently twist inside the cylinder to break up the carbon. But I don't even do that. I just use solvent ( Hoppes ) . Also the gas system is suppose to be bone dry with no lube at all.  That's the cylinder and or piston. DRY....   You also don't need to break the action out of the stock every cleaning . Skip a few times. Maybe every 500 or so rounds. And the gas system does not need to be clean  every time also. every 500-1000 rounds is a good spot. Congrads and good luck.  WarDawg
10/22/2008 6:58:02 PM EDT
[#8]
I like to take apart the gas system fairly often, because I have found if you do not clean the outside of the piston, the tail part will rust. I have had this happen twice to two USGI pistons by leaving the gas system alone thinking it would be alright. I just switched to a SEI chromed piston which is supposed to end this rust problem, even if cleaning the gas system is skipped.
10/23/2008 6:44:41 AM EDT
[#9]

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I like to take apart the gas system fairly often, because I have found if you do not clean the outside of the piston, the tail part will rust. I have had this happen twice to two USGI pistons by leaving the gas system alone thinking it would be alright. I just switched to a SEI chromed piston which is supposed to end this rust problem, even if cleaning the gas system is skipped.


  I have never seen the tail rust. You must have acid sweat .LOL   Chroming must have come along way. I wouldn't think chroming could be held tight enough tolerance. But if SEI is doing it I guess it's good to go. WarDawg
10/24/2008 5:42:12 AM EDT
[#10]
The M14 a ***** to clean? I think the M14 is far easier to clean than the AR family of rifles. The M14 rifles are a whole lot cleaner running, and I find when detail cleaning my AR's, it takes quite a bit more time to clean properly. Everyone has their own perspective though.
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